# Two Threads in two days locked due to the Dio Show **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [April 10, 2011, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820 "2011-04-10T00:18:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/221 "2011-04-11T17:07:50Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > One thing I find that tends to send threads Dio participates in off the rails is the sheer volume of his posting relative to everyone else. For example, in [the thread about the police pepper spraying the 8 year old](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=603946&page=2), Dio entered the discussion on page 2. Page 1, post 29. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/222 "2011-04-11T17:08:44Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I’ve been staying out of this thread since Dio posted earlier\* but I just wanted to mention that I whole heatedly believe that if you were to look at his computer all the cites you throw at him would be unclicked. I truly don’t think he looks at any of them. > > \*I’m following the advice of others. If you look at my post in this thread, I quoted Dio saying that he never called anyone a nasty name, then a few posts down I showed him calling other people nasty names. Fast forward to the next page (on my computer anyways) and there he is, quoting my first post saying he never calls people nasty names, completely ignoring a quote, directly from him doing just that. As much as I wanted to take the bait, I’m just leaving it alone. I wish others would do the same. Continue on with your own conversation when he gets like that. Don’t quote him, don’t talk to him, don’t respond to him in those threads. > > But, as noted, there’s always going to be people that haven’t dealt with it and don’t know better, that’s how I got sucked in the first time. Hey, I’ve been here better then a decade and it only happened to me for the first time not that long ago, I didn’t know any better. OTOH, it didn’t take that long for me to realize that I was arguing with a brick wall and I gave up and walked away. As my dad taught me “Sometimes you win by letting the other person think they won” 1. I never said I “never” called anybody names. I said “I’m not as prone to it.” 2. The Packer fan quote was directed, in general, at Packer fans, not at another poster. If you look at these pile ups and at my pit threads, you will not see me making things personal and calling other posters names nearly as often or vitriolocally as they do it to me. Note: I don’t think that makes me a victim. I don’t care. I’m just positing that the behavior of others me tends to be much nastier than I ever am to other posters. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/223 "2011-04-11T17:10:38Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Also 35, 36, 39, and 40, most of which are in response to jokes. Right. I didn’t feel like counting every post by him. I thought that sample gives a clear idea of the sheer volume that Dio produces. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Every post is a response to someone else. I’ve got a crazy idea. How about you read the thread you’re responding to and create one response with whatever you have to say (you can address multiple posts at once) instead of it being Dio, Dio, Dio, someone else, Dio, Dio, someone else, someone else, Dio, Dio, Dio, etc? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/224 "2011-04-11T17:11:34Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > But when that type of posting starts, it’s something the mods could point to and say “look, if you have a new argument to make, go ahead and make it, but otherwise take your comments to a new Pit thread about how stupid everyone in this thread is and let other people have a chance to continue their discussion in this one.” And then follow it with warnings when he continues to try to outshout the rest of the thread. A motherfucking Men. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/225 "2011-04-11T17:11:52Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Am I supposed to ignore posts direceted at me and not respond to them? Yes, if they don’t add anything new to the discussion. I mean, in a thread asking people about their views on abortion, once someone has posted that they view abortion as murder, they don’t need to repost that every time someone says they don’t think it counts as murder since the fetus is sufficiently undeveloped, even if their post is quoted in the process. Now, if they wanted to post a link to a fetal development study to rebut the argument, that’s different, but simply saying “no, you’re wrong, abortion is murder” over and over again is just obnoxious noise. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/226 "2011-04-11T17:12:54Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > 1. I never said I “never” called anybody names. I said “I’m not as prone to it.” [I never whine and call people names and accuse them of trolling because they diagree with me.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13669434&postcount=62) ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/227 "2011-04-11T17:13:49Z")
I sometimes try to do that, but it’s not very practical when I’m trying to address specific points. Is there a rule against responding directly to every post directed at me? ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/228 "2011-04-11T17:14:12Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Page 1, post 29. Thank you for the correction, you’re right. Luckily, the pattern in the second half of page one is exactly the same as all of page two, so I think it’s still a good example. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/229 "2011-04-11T17:15:24Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > [I never whine and call people names and accuse them of trolling because they diagree with me.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13669434&postcount=62) I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/230 "2011-04-11T17:15:59Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I sometimes try to do that, but it’s not very practical when I’m trying to address specific points. Is there a rule against responding directly to every post directed at me? No, for the same reason most restaurants don’t have a sign saying “please don’t burp loudly every 30 seconds.” Most people get that message boards are multi-way discussions without being told. For those that don’t, special mod intervention is needed, unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/231 "2011-04-11T17:16:57Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I don’t care. I’m just positing that the behavior of others me tends to be much nastier than I ever am to other posters. That’s because you have a long and colorful history, and earned yourself a large measure of contempt from most of the reputable posters here. Face it–you have zero credibility on most topics here. In theory, you could post the most brilliant idea ever imagined–but because it comes from you, nobody is going to take it seriously. You have this persecution complex without taking responsibility for your own behavior that has made you so wildly unpopular here. The reason people are nasty to you is because of your behavior. You are responsible. Not the dozens if not hundreds of people you have royally pissed off over the years. Maybe take a break from the boards for 6 months…or a year. Come back and start over. Be less confrontational, less absolutist, less prolific. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/232 "2011-04-11T17:18:12Z")
I’m not stopping anyone else from posting, just responding to them when they respond to me. It’s weird that you think I shouldn’t have the same posting rights as everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/233 "2011-04-11T17:19:35Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > [I never whine and call people names and accuse them of trolling because they diagree with me.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13669434&postcount=62) > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I don’t. > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > 1. I never said I “never” called anybody names. You don’t what? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/234 "2011-04-11T17:19:43Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > That’s because you have a long and colorful history, and earned yourself a large measure of contempt from most of the reputable posters here. Face it–you have zero credibility on most topics here. In theory, you could post the most brilliant idea ever imagined–but because it comes from you, nobody is going to take it seriously. > > You have this persecution complex without taking responsibility for your own behavior that has made you so wildly unpopular here. The reason people are nasty to you is because of your behavior. You are responsible. Not the dozens if not hundreds of people you have royally pissed off over the years. Maybe take a break from the boards for 6 months…or a year. Come back and start over. Be less confrontational, less absolutist, less prolific. I have no persecution complex. I do not think I am persecuted. I do not think I’m a victim. You’re the ones who think you’re somehow being victimized by me. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/235 "2011-04-11T17:21:35Z")
The issue is that when it turns into the Dio Show, it becomes the functional equivalent of posting “You are on my ignore list”. This is, as has been pointed out, a message board. We discuss, we debate, we snark, we make witty or not-so-witty one-liners at each others expense, we flame each other (in the Pit), but we are engaged in some kind of interaction. Once **Diogenes** begins his Dio Show, he is making it clear that he is not going to make any effort at engaging. Repetitious, one- or two-line posts that do nothing but insist that “I am right” do not engage. They are merely the attempt to make it clear that “no matter what you say, I’m not listening”. Over the years, it was discovered that “you are on my Ignore list” is harmful to interaction on the boards. This is the same thing, and it is equally harmful. It’s not because his opinions are unpopular. Many of his opinions (especially on religion and politics) are practically mainstream thought on the SDMB. But he does this kind of thing on any of his hot-button topics. I notice it more in political threads, but even in threads where I can understand, and at least partially agree, with his opinion, I can how jerkishly he is expressing it. I think he is aware of it, too. That’s why, once this thread started to die down, he jumped back to kick off another round of the Dio Show with his “there is no such thing as the Dio Show”. He read from what the mods said that he was not going to get called on it (in this thread), so he decided to attract attention and/or to irritate other people by making a statement that he could use to go into Knee-Jerk Robotic Denial mode, and thereby establish in his own mind that he has won the thread. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/236 "2011-04-11T17:21:46Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > You don’t what? I was thinking of post #80 in this thread where I said “I’m less prone to make things personal.” The post that you’re quoting says I never call people names, accuse them of trolling. etc. _because they diasagree with me_. And I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/237 "2011-04-11T17:21:56Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I sometimes try to do that, but it’s not very practical when I’m trying to address specific points. Is there a rule against responding directly to every post directed at me? One by one in separate posts back to back, so as to be responsible for 19 posts on a single page, many of which are two or three in a row? Isn’t that a little obnoxious, and can’t you see why people believe you are responsible for the Dio Show, and it’s not entirely the result of people responding to you? It’s just post, post, post, post, post, _inhale_, post, post, post out of you. Feel free to step back from the keyboard for 10 min. The time stamps on these posts are ridiculous. 12:47, 12:50, 12:52, 12:55, 12:56, 1:03, 1:04, 1:06, 1:17, 1:22, 1:25, 1:38, 1:39. What the fuck is that all about? I’m guessing between 1:06 and 1:17 was your break to go microwave a snack. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/238 "2011-04-11T17:25:47Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I was thinking of post #80 in this thread where I said “I’m less prone to make things personal.” > > The post that you’re quoting says I never call people names, accuse them of trolling. etc. _because they diasagree with me_. And I don’t. And…? > [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > 1. I never said I “never” called anybody names. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/239 "2011-04-11T17:26:27Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I don’t. Mods, this is the problem. It’s not the he disagrees with people, it’s that he just plain lies. Twice in this thread alone it’s been shown that he calls other posters horrible, nasty names. Then when someone mentions it, he says “I don’t” C’mon, that’s just being a jerk. Own up to it. Twist it around however you want. But when someone goes into a thread full of Packer fans and says > [@dio](#): > > And the zebras give it away. Predictable. It would have been nice to see the agme played on the level. Just for the record, all Packer dfans are still obese, mentally challenged, inbred, alcoholic, zoophililic morons, but I guess there’;s sometjing yo be said for am all homosexual team winning thne Superbowl. Congratulations, retards, then they are saying nasty things to the posters in that thread. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/240 "2011-04-11T17:26:59Z")
No, it’s not obnoxious. What’s obnoxious is telling somebody they shouldn’t be allowed to defend themselves against a flurry of posts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820.md?page=13)