# Two Threads in two days locked due to the Dio Show **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [April 10, 2011, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820 "2011-04-10T00:18:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/121 "2011-04-10T21:05:25Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > You’ve just shown exactly what it is. A one line post, stating opinion as fact, with no argument or information to back it up. So, perhaps you’d like to explain why your chosen posting style is constructive, and the people who criticize it are mistaken? A qualification that, if applied across the board, would bring the SDMB to a screeching halt. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/122 "2011-04-10T21:09:58Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > A qualification that, if applied across the board, would bring the SDMB to a screeching halt. If I thought that was true of the majority of posters, I wouldn’t be here. What has, in fact, brought things to a screeching halt is a moderator feeling the need to lock threads because of, well, that’s what this thread’s about - what exactly the cause of those lockings is. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/123 "2011-04-10T21:13:32Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > If I thought that was true of the majority of posters, I wouldn’t be here. > > What has, in fact, brought things to a screeching halt is a moderator feeling the need to lock threads because of, well, that’s what this thread’s about - what exactly the cause of those lockings is. Explained in post #89. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/124 "2011-04-10T21:20:20Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Explained in post #89. Which **Ellen Cherry** states was an imperfect solution, and refers to people in this thread working through it to try to see if there’s a better one. She writes > [@](#): > > Diogenes is breaking no rule except to be annoying. which leaves it somewhat ambiguous as to whether he is breaking a rule or not. I asked earlier, and I’ll ask again - can a moderator unambiguously state that Dio is doing nothing wrong? If so, well, that will be that as far as I’m concerned. I’ve no desire to get into a fight with the mods. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/125 "2011-04-10T21:25:02Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > I’ll rephrase the question. How does posting one line comments, stating your opinion as fact, with nothing to back it up, lead to an interesting or informative conversation on this board? In the thread about the 8-year-old, he backed up all his points with his own experiences and his own observations about the dangerousness of pointy wood trim. In the thread about the 25 year old, he didn’t do a very good job of defending his position, but I don’t know how anyone could back up a statement that a 25 year old is always a perv (or not) for dating a 17 year old. You either believe it or you don’t. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/126 "2011-04-10T21:26:48Z")
OP: Which is closer to gray, black or white? Doper A: Black, because gray is kind of dark. Doper B: Black Dio: I disagree, it is definitely White. I had a gray crayon that was almost white once. Doper C: No, that’s nuts. Black. Doper D: Yeah, that’s nuts, black. Doper E. I agree, that’s nuts, black. Dio: No, it’s always white. Doper F: Back to the OP, black. Doper G: I think it’s usually black. Doper C: Dio, you’re wrong. Black. Doper D: Yeah, Dio, you’re wrong. Black. Doper E. I agree, Dio, you keep ruining everything, black. Dio: No, white. You’re wrong. I am right. I am my cite. Dopers: It’s the Dio show! Why must we be forced to put up with this? He ruins everything! He won’t stop answering us! He is making us answer him back! We can’t stop! Why should we have to stop? We will continue to answer to his posts until he quits! He made this a trainwreck! He’s a troll! He won’t give a cite! Now the thread’s going to be closed, and it’s ALL HIS FAULT! ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/127 "2011-04-10T21:27:45Z")
I’m still waiting for a cogent reply to post 101. And how that whole thing is supposed to work. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/128 "2011-04-10T21:32:00Z")
> [@needscoffee](#): > > OP: Which is closer to gray, black or white? > Doper A: Black, because gray is kind of dark. > Doper B: Black > Dio: I disagree, it is definitely White. I had a gray crayon that was almost white once. > Doper C: No, that’s nuts. Black. > Doper D: Yeah, that’s nuts, black. > Doper E. I agree, that’s nuts, black. > Dio: No, it’s always white. > Doper F: Back to the OP, black. > Doper G: I think it’s usually black. > Doper C: Dio, you’re wrong. Black. > Doper D: Yeah, Dio, you’re wrong. Black. > Doper E. I agree, Dio, you keep ruining everything, black. > Dio: No, white. You’re wrong. I am right. I am my cite. > Dopers: It’s the Dio show! Why must we be forced to put up with this? He ruins everything! He won’t stop answering us! He is making us answer him back! We can’t stop! Why should we have to stop? We will continue to answer to his posts until he quits! He made this a trainwreck! He’s a troll! He won’t give a cite! Now the thread’s going to be closed, and it’s ALL HIS FAULT! The thing with this example is, only Dio gives any reason for an opinion. If that’s what happened in other threads, you would of course be right. However, what usually happens is the exact opposite - many posters give reasoned arguments, and Dio ignores them, posting a terse assertion that something is fact, with no attempt to address the arguments. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/129 "2011-04-10T21:32:51Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I’m still waiting for a cogent reply to post 101. And how that whole thing is supposed to work. And what would be the broken rule, or “crime” as you would have it, that we would prosecute him for? Annoyance? Having a contrary opinion? ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/130 "2011-04-10T21:34:17Z")
But, billfish, really what you’re suggesting is that no one with the opposite opinion be able to respond to the people who call him out on his opposite opinion. I just can’t see how you can accomplish that. People are going to try to pile on the guy who has the opposite opinion, and he’s going to have to reply. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/131 "2011-04-10T21:34:27Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Finally got to the end of the pepper spray thread. Dio was warned…the exact words were “I’d advise you to cool it in this thread, and not post in it unless you have something new to add.” > So that’s it? He has not supposed to post in that thread any more…the thread that was closed 20 minutes earlier? Harsh. Then that wasn’t an official warning. Candy bar to the first poster who can find one from the last 3 years. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/132 "2011-04-10T21:36:16Z")
A lot of Dio’s cite-less opinions really aren’t quantifiable in the first place. I don’t think the trainwrecks should have been closed. Maybe just another “move along here or take it to the pit” warning or something. I’ve seen much worse trainwrecks that get back on track. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/133 "2011-04-10T21:42:41Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Then that wasn’t an official warning. Candy bar to the first poster who can find one from the last 3 years. From the now-closed teen sex thread - > [@Spectre of Pithecanthropus](#): > > Moderator warning > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by Diogenes the Cynic > > I didn’t bring her into it. I was speaking hypothetically and generally as a father. I said nothing specific or personal about my daughters. The question is why are you threatening to rape my my children? > > Dio, this libel will stop now. You add next to nothing to this thread with your blanket pronunciamentos, and suggesting that other posters are contemplating horrific crimes is unacceptable. > You will receive a formal warning to this effect. I’ve had to manually quote it as the thread is locked. [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13659172&postcount=131) should hopefully be a link to the post, if I’ve done it right. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/134 "2011-04-10T21:44:09Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And what would be the broken rule, or “crime” as you would have it, that we would prosecute him for? Annoyance? Having a contrary opinion? As OTHERS have said, tell him (and everyone else) to knock it off. You guys love the “don’t be a jerk rule” except for the one instance that seems to be exactly what the rule was designed for. You still haven’t answered whether you’d allow alternate threads or what you’d do besides lock the thread when Dio shows up. Which is the whole damn problem. The. Thread. Gets. Locked. You mods are at least a third of the Dio problem. How about a member non-anonymous vote that “something” must be done about Dio? Not WHAT exactly must be done, just that something besides trainwrecks followed by locking might be preferable. You mods and the powers that be obviously wouldn’t be required to do anything, but I do think you’d get a real feel for how many people actually feel. Even posters that agree with Dio are tired of it. Posters that are probably mortal enemies find themselves in agreement regarding the Dio show. Posters that rarely complain or get into BBQ pit action feel compelled to get their two cents worth in. All opinion of course. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/135 "2011-04-10T21:47:29Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And what would be the broken rule, or “crime” as you would have it, that we would prosecute him for? Annoyance? Having a contrary opinion? “Don’t be a jerk.” I think everyone in this thread who is arguing that **Dio** isn’t doing anything wrong and it’s everyone else who has a problem are being painfully disingenuous. There’s obviously a problem, or **Dio** wouldn’t keep on getting Pitted (30 times is it now? Holy shit!), and threads where he takes them off the rails wouldn’t keep getting locked. Maybe we need “Don’t Be A Jerk: Subsection 1: Don’t Ruin it For Everyone Else.” ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/136 "2011-04-10T21:49:12Z")
For the record, I’ve been turning this over in my head since your post, **Ellen Cherry** , and I think I do see how thorny this is for the moderators and admins, but I think everyone has to admit that there is indeed a problem here. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/137 "2011-04-10T21:52:22Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > And what would be the broken rule, or “crime” as you would have it, that we would prosecute him for? Annoyance? Having a contrary opinion? Then unlock the threads in question. Or just stop playing your own version of the Dio Show, and address points honestly. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/138 "2011-04-10T21:54:24Z")
Snickers or Baby Ruth, **Steophan**? > [@Czarcasm](#): > > And what would be the broken rule, or “crime” as you would have it, that we would prosecute him for? Annoyance? Having a contrary opinion? “We have one guiding principle: Don’t be a jerk.” Is this really that effin’ hard? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/139 "2011-04-10T21:57:58Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > “Don’t be a jerk.” I think everyone in this thread who is arguing that **Dio** isn’t doing anything wrong and it’s everyone else who has a problem are being painfully disingenuous. There’s obviously a problem, or **Dio** wouldn’t keep on getting Pitted (30 times is it now? Holy shit!), and threads where he takes them off the rails wouldn’t keep getting locked. > > Maybe we need “Don’t Be A Jerk: Subsection 1: Don’t Ruin it For Everyone Else.” I think it has gotten to the point that, if **Dio** gives a contrary opinion there is now a race to see who can post a “OMG! It’s the Dio Show!” thread in The BBQ Pit. I have this suspicion that if he weren’t posting, someone else’s postings would quickly fill in the vacuum. A large part of the problem(in my opinion) is that this has turned into a vicious game for some posters-they enthusiastically look for opportunities to make the too-oft heard proclamation. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820/140 "2011-04-10T22:00:39Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Then unlock the threads in question. Or just stop playing your own version of the Dio Show, and address points honestly. I have posted honestly. The fact that my answers do not match up with what you want to hear is not something I can really help you with. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-threads-in-two-days-locked-due-to-the-dio-show/577820.md?page=8)