# Two Towers protest

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 21, 2002, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252 "2002-10-21T16:20:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![jeevmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@jeevmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeevmon)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/1 "2002-10-21T16:20:24Z")

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Check out: [http://www.twotowersprotest.org](http://www.twotowersprotest.org)

I remember when this was a petition on [petitiononline.com](http://petitiononline.com), and thought for sure it was just a joke at that time. But it seems to have lasted a lot longer than a joke of this type ought to have.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/2 "2002-10-21T17:04:50Z")

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Very very very very silly, if true.

The WTC was **never** referred to as “The Two Towers.” If not WTC, then people said The _Twin_ towers. There is no connection between the names.

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/3 "2002-10-21T17:26:07Z")

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Besides, that was the name of the second book, and the movie was in the can long before 9/11 anyway.

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**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/4 "2002-10-21T17:33:22Z")

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Gimme a freakin’ break! New Line is not in any way trying to cash in on the WTC! That web site is the stupidest waste of bandwidth I’ve ever seen.

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/5 "2002-10-21T17:36:49Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by jeevmon \*  
> \*\*But it seems to have lasted a lot longer than a joke of this type ought to have. \*\*

All… your… towers… are… belong… to… us!!!

😃

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**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/6 "2002-10-21T19:17:59Z")

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In the F.A.Q. section, they accuse Peter Jackson and New Line of “hate speech” for intentionally naming the movie “The Two Towers” in order to capitalize on September 11, but they also claim that members of their organization are fans of Tolkein. Isn’t this a little contradictory? Wouldn’t fans of Tolkein know that Peter Jackson and New Line aren’t responsible for the name of the movie? And yes, “The Two Towers” and “Twin Towers” aren’t the same thing.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/7 "2002-10-21T20:05:31Z")

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Nobody is that stupid.  
It’s a bad joke.

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**Author:** ![ZooMetropolis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e480ec/32.png) [@ZooMetropolis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZooMetropolis)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/8 "2002-10-21T20:26:23Z")

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what a waste of time

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**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/9 "2002-10-21T20:30:17Z")

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The whole thing seems blatantly bogus to me. We should check up on the registrar.  
WHOIS data:

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```
    Registrant:
     two towers protest
     3221 274a st
     aldergrove, bc v4w3j2
     CA

     Domain Name: TWOTOWERSPROTEST.ORG

     Administrative Contact:
        wilson, aaron anwilson@telus.net
        3221 274a st
        aldergrove, bc v4w3j2
        CA
        604 607 1336

     Technical Contact:
        wu, steve info@gotoecom.com
        5066 kingsway
        suite #210
        burnaby, bc v5h2e7
        CA
        604-412-1503
        Fax: 604-451-8611

     Registration Service Provider:
        Gotoecom Internet & Marketing Ltd., info@gotoecom.com
        604-412-1503
        www.gotoecom.com
     Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
     Record last updated on 15-Oct-2002.
     Record expires on 15-Oct-2003.
     Record Created on 15-Oct-2002.

     Domain servers in listed order:
        MYDNS.GOTOECOM.COM 209.139.214.250
        NS.BESTDIR.COM 208.181.84.1
```

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/10 "2002-10-21T22:28:03Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \*  
> **Nobody is that stupid.**

Ahh, if only that were true… I’d say it’s extremely possible this two towers protest is genuine, because there ARE people who far exceed the minimum stupidity requirement for such a thing. Especially when emotional things like Sept 11 are involved.

I think it’s likely to be a hoax, expecially since this exact same hoax has been seen before, but there are certainly people stupid enough to believe that they named the movie after the tragedy.

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**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/11 "2002-10-21T23:14:00Z")

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Also interesting to note that their [online petition](http://www.petitiononline.com/twotower/petition.html):

a) has been suspensed due to lack of maintenance by the originators (whatever that means),

b) has had a caveat added by [petitiononline.com](http://petitiononline.com) to the effect that they feel there is no basis to the claim that movie’s title and WTC attacks have anything in common,

c) has had most of the signatures on the petition removed as being false and thus void, and…

d) that most of the “signatories” are actually telling them that their petition is ridiculous. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bob\_Scene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Bob\_Scene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Scene)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/12 "2002-10-21T23:42:10Z")

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I found Aaron Wilson’s homepage and found out he really is friends with the guy who started the petition, and I’m **sure** the petition is a piss-take because anyone who claims to be a Tolkein fan and says “The title is clearly meant to refer to the attacks on the World Trade Center” has got to be kidding.

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**Author:** ![Bob\_Scene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Bob\_Scene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Scene)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/13 "2002-10-21T23:53:20Z")

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Incidentally, Mr. Wilson also has a 10-minute-long video clip on his site, which is labeled “Author: Aaron Wilson” and copyrighted less than a month ago, that shows someone torturing a slug to death with an Aim-n-Flame while music like “Ring of Fire” plays in the background. So I don’t think he’s exactly interested in “sensitivity” like the Two Towers site claims.

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**Author:** ![Apollyon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/apollyon/32/4238_2.png) [@Apollyon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apollyon)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2002, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/14 "2002-10-21T23:54:02Z")

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I’m pretty convinced it’s a send up.

The petition owner, Kevin Klerck, has a web site where he’s storing some of the mail he’s been sent:  
[Directory of Letters](http://klerck.org/petition/)  
Particulary good are the ones all in capitals… but the best is from [petitiononline.com](http://petitiononline.com) (which also explains why the petition has been suspended), and contain the priceless comment that “of the 1066 signatures received by 4PM today, 1028 were invalid. Mostly, the bogus signatures are from people who do not agree with your petition”. 😃 ROTFLMAO

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2002, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/133252/15 "2002-10-22T00:28:01Z")

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This guy is a waste of phlem. i say gut him like a fish, but keep his mouth intact because the manure that comes out will turn the Sahara desert into a new fertile cresent.
