# Two Towers Protest

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 19, 2002, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812 "2002-12-19T15:19:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tanaqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Tanaqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaqui)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2002, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/21 "2002-12-19T20:17:21Z")

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A while ago, there was a link to a petition started on this exact subject. IIRC, the OP was “whooshed” there too. Does anyone remember the link? The comments were _hilarious_. Comedy gold.

Tanaqui

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**Author:** ![jeevmon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@jeevmon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jeevmon)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2002, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/22 "2002-12-19T20:23:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tanaqui \*  
> \*\*A while ago, there was a link to a petition started on this exact subject. IIRC, the OP was “whooshed” there too. Does anyone remember the link? The comments were _hilarious_. Comedy gold.
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> Tanaqui \*\*

No, comedy gold was MSNBC picking up the existence of the petition and the signatories and reporting a swelling movement to rename the film in light of September 11. When you actually looked at the comments, you’d realize that nearly all of them were nasty or snarky. But MSNBC picked it up like it was a real story.

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**Author:** ![MrMyth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e19b73/32.png) [@MrMyth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrMyth)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2002, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/23 "2002-12-19T20:47:56Z")

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The petition is a good thing. It appeared almost as soon as FOTR was out of the theaters. Think of it as a pre-emptive strike against ignorance. Be glad these people got the URL and not someone actually **serious** about this.

In other words, _it’s a joke_.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2002, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/24 "2002-12-19T23:48:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CrankyAsAnOldMan \*  
> _\<re the Starbucks poster\>_ \*\*Hunh. I don’t see it. I mean, it isn’t reminiscent at all to me. But what do I know? \*\*

I didn’t see it either, until I noticed the dragonfly in the background screaming in on an obviously suicidal collision course.

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**Author:** ![qshapadooy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/c67d28/32.png) [@qshapadooy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/qshapadooy)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/25 "2002-12-20T02:42:05Z")

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I figure by now everyone knows that’s it’s a joke, but for more insight into the mind of the creator of the original petition, check out Kevin Klerck’s [Slashdot posting history](http://slashdot.org/~klerck). Well known for his page-widening posts there, it looks like someone took his [peitiononline.com](http://peitiononline.com) shtick and ran with it.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/26 "2002-12-20T03:03:35Z")

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Huge **“wooshing”** sound, powerful enough to shatter the windows of office buildings and uproot trees rumbles though the SDMB trailer park leaving trailers a tumble. Film at 11.

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**Author:** ![racosun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@racosun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racosun)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/27 "2002-12-20T11:33:37Z")

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Couldn’t a “whoosh” be considered offensive? I mean, the airplanes that hit the WTC made a whooshing sound. Shouldn’t we stay away from all whooshing sounds from now on?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/28 "2002-12-20T15:24:54Z")

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Opus: “Could somebody please tell me whether or not I should be enjoying this?”

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**Author:** ![Bob\_Scene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Bob\_Scene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bob_Scene)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/29 "2002-12-20T20:11:24Z")

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There was a thread about this in Cafe Society a while back. I went poking around on the web and found the home page of the guy who made the “protest” site. I was 99% sure it was a lame joke before I saw his home page and 100% sure afterwards. Among other things, his other site had an extremely long home movie on it of a slug being tortured to death.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2002, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/30 "2002-12-20T20:37:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by astro \*  
> \*\*Film at 11. \*\*

I’m sorry, but that’s entirely too reminiscent of “9/11”. I’m afraid I’m going to have to ask you to rescind that statement.

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**Author:** ![Kallessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7993a0/32.png) [@Kallessa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kallessa)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/31 "2002-12-21T08:52:15Z")

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I say that we eliminate the number 11 altogether, except as a secular sacred number. Children would go from being 10 to 12, buildings wouldn’t have an 11th floor, tenth grade would last two years, November would become the 12th month and December 13th, unless that’s too unlucky and then we could just skip 13 and have December be 14, except Lincoln was shot on April 14th, so that’s not a safe number, but the Ides of March is on the 15, which could be scary, except that Martin Luther King’s birthday was the 15 of January, so is 15 a good number or a bad number?

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/32 "2002-12-21T08:55:55Z")

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Good number. It’s my mom’s birthday.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/33 "2002-12-21T13:57:36Z")

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A good suggestio, Kallessa. Do we get to put Mike McKean in the stocks for _This is Spinal Tap?_

“It goes to…” [thud]

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**Author:** ![Anubis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@Anubis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anubis)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/34 "2002-12-21T17:30:02Z")

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Eh, let’s just get rid of all numbers and call September (and all the other month) That Month.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/35 "2002-12-21T17:45:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Anubis \*  
> \*\*Eh, let’s just get rid of all numbers and call September (and all the other month) That Month. \*\*

How about Smarch?

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**Author:** ![shelbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@shelbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shelbo)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/36 "2002-12-21T22:20:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Kallessa \*  
> \*\*I say that we eliminate the number 11 altogether, except as a secular sacred number. Children would go from being 10 to 12, buildings wouldn’t have an 11th floor, tenth grade would last two years, November would become the 12th month and December 13th, unless that’s too unlucky and then we could just skip 13 and have December be 14, except Lincoln was shot on April 14th, so that’s not a safe number, but the Ides of March is on the 15, which could be scary, except that Martin Luther King’s birthday was the 15 of January, so is 15 a good number or a bad number? \*\*

Well the number 9 is right out as well. And the number 20, which is of course, the sum of 9 and 11. And the number 1, which after all is very reminiscent of the number 11, which is merely the number 1, twice. Six should be out too, as it is just the number 9, upside down (think about how horribly insensitive the number 6 is!).

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2002, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/37 "2002-12-21T22:58:10Z")

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I know. Even if you tickle its nipples-- nothing.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/38 "2002-12-22T05:22:45Z")

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Hey **Larry Mudd** you actually made me LOL (hardly ever happens in net life)!

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/39 "2002-12-22T05:24:07Z")

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Just to be clear, I literally laughed out loud, so I guess it should be LLOL.

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**Author:** ![Kallessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7993a0/32.png) [@Kallessa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kallessa)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2002, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-towers-protest/143812/40 "2002-12-22T05:42:08Z")

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I just realized that these numbers we’ve been talking about are _Arabic_ numerals! We should stop using them altogether and go back to Roman numerals. Or would that be race profiling? I’m sooooo confused!

Maybe I’ll end up on Route LXVI, drinking Love Potion Number IX.

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