# Two-way communication with dolphins?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-way-communication-with-dolphins/581544>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 11, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-way-communication-with-dolphins/581544 "2011-05-11T17:53:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-way-communication-with-dolphins/581544/1 "2011-05-11T17:53:19Z")

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[That’s the goal of the Wild Dolphin Project:](http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21028115.400-talk-with-a-dolphin-via-underwater-translation-machine.html)

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> A DIVER carrying a computer that tries to recognise dolphin sounds and generate responses in real time will soon attempt to communicate with wild dolphins off the coast of Florida. If the bid is successful, it will be a big step towards two-way communication between humans and dolphins.
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> Since the 1960s, captive dolphins have been communicating via pictures and sounds. In the 1990s, Louis Herman of the Kewalo Basin Marine Mammal Laboratory in Honolulu, Hawaii, found that bottlenose dolphins can keep track of over 100 different words. They can also respond appropriately to commands in which the same words appear in a different order, understanding the difference between “bring the surfboard to the man” and “bring the man to the surfboard”, for example.
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> But communication in most of these early experiments was one-way, says Denise Herzing, founder of the Wild Dolphin Project in Jupiter, Florida. “They create a system and expect the dolphins to learn it, and they do, but the dolphins are not empowered to use the system to request things from the humans,” she says.

This is very likely as close as we’ll ever get to communicating with an alien species, and it should give us some significant insight as to what exactly separates us from other animals.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-way-communication-with-dolphins/581544/2 "2011-05-11T19:59:04Z")

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No doubt the first message that we’ll get from a dolphin is “Your fly’s open.”

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-way-communication-with-dolphins/581544/3 "2011-05-11T20:01:59Z")

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So long, and thanks for all the fish.

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**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-way-communication-with-dolphins/581544/4 "2011-05-11T20:04:20Z")

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Very cool , thanks for bringing it up. Still, is it that different from when we tried to teach [apes sign language?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanzi)? Do we expect dolphins to say more to us then apes?

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-way-communication-with-dolphins/581544/5 "2011-05-11T20:16:52Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> Very cool , thanks for bringing it up. Still, is it that different from when we tried to teach [apes sign language?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanzi)? Do we expect dolphins to say more to us then apes?

As I understand it, apes can learn quite a few words, but they don’t seem to have any notion of grammar. Per the linked article, dolphins can make sense of differences in word order:

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> They can also respond appropriately to commands in which the same words appear in a different order, understanding the difference between “bring the surfboard to the man” and “bring the man to the surfboard”, for example.

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-way-communication-with-dolphins/581544/6 "2011-05-11T20:45:27Z")

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I like dophins, heck, I like most cetaceans, but this is kind of silly. She will only succeed in annoying the dolphins.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-way-communication-with-dolphins/581544/7 "2011-05-11T22:04:52Z")

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> They can also respond appropriately to commands in which the same words appear in a different order, understanding the difference between “bring the surfboard to the man” and “bring the man to the surfboard”, for example.

I’m sure they can learn different commands, but if they learned (for instance) “bring the fish to the boat” would they understand and correctly execute “bring the boat to the fish” the first time they heard it?

I tend to be rather skeptical of stuff like this, what with Clever Hans the Counting Horse and so on. And with Washoe, it appeared that the trainers were doing a lot of projection.

It would be interesting if the dolphins could actually convey some kind of insight that we couldn’t get from observation.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![mrklutz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@mrklutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrklutz)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-way-communication-with-dolphins/581544/8 "2011-05-12T15:03:37Z")

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Obligatory [Far Side](http://s1.hubimg.com/u/209666_f520.jpg) moment

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-way-communication-with-dolphins/581544/9 "2011-05-12T15:22:20Z")

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I’ve heard about something similar with, I believe, prairie dogs. Their language was decoded enough so that it was determined that they said stuff like “It’s the human with the red shirt”, “It’s the human with the blue shirt”, and “It’s the human with the red shirt but today he’s wearing the blue shirt.”

And they can not only warn each other not only when a fox is near, but they can communicate which fox it is.

I wish I knew more about it.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-way-communication-with-dolphins/581544/10 "2011-05-12T15:38:17Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> So long, and thanks for all the fish.

I hope we don’t get that message! I’m rather enjoying having a planet here rather than a bypass. (I finally watched the HHGTTG tv series last night)
