# Two weeks to..... Oblivion **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 5, 2006, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180 "2006-03-05T21:40:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/201 "2006-03-27T16:58:20Z")
I think this game has replay value as different classes. All three major character types seem like they’d have fun and varied gameplay. I’m going to try an almost pure warrior, but probably with destruction, and a pure mage sometime in the future, I think. ---
**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/202 "2006-03-27T16:59:29Z")
> [@DeadlyAccurate](#): > > There’s a cool thread on the forums on neat stuff people have seen the Radiant AI do. Some of the things are rather mind-boggling. Linky? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/203 "2006-03-27T17:09:28Z")
The difficult of locks seems to have very little correlation with what’s held inside… valuable items always have difficult locks, but I’ve opened very hard locks that have only had a plate or two in there. Must’ve been really important plates. I just broke 3 lockpicks opening a chest to get… a lockpick. Good practice though. ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/204 "2006-03-27T17:15:42Z")
I can’t seem to find it, **Jayrot**. Maybe I’ll make an account later today and search for it. Those forums are _busy_! ---
**Author:** ![Bashta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Bashta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bashta)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/205 "2006-03-27T20:23:49Z")
I believe this is it: [http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=303434](http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=303434) ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/206 "2006-03-27T20:38:29Z")
Need a hint. Fairly early on in the main quest: [spoiler] I got all 4 books of the mythic dawn thing. I pieced together that the first letter of every paragraph stands for GREEN EMPORER WAY WHERE TOWER TOUCHES MIDDAY SUN … But I can’t figure out what exactly that means. I know where green emporer way is, and I assume they’re talking about the huge tower - but where does it touch the midday sun? Does that mean the top of the tower? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/207 "2006-03-27T20:39:44Z")
I am a dumbass. I always preview when using spoiler boxes… until now. ---
**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/208 "2006-03-27T20:48:22Z")
Response to Senor: Partial Spoiler– Go to Green Emperor way (graveyard area near the palace) around noon. Look for anything…out of the ordinary Full spoiler – If you go to Green Emperor way graveyard around noon, you’ll see one of the tomb/mauseleums have a glowing red symbol on it. Go up an click on it and it puts a location on your world map where you’re supposed to go – temple or some such. I’m about go inside, ATM. . ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/209 "2006-03-27T20:48:55Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Need a hint. > > Fairly early on in the main quest: > > [spoiler] > > I got all 4 books of the mythic dawn thing. I pieced together that the first letter of every paragraph stands for GREEN EMPORER WAY WHERE TOWER TOUCHES MIDDAY SUN … > > But I can’t figure out what exactly that means. I know where green emporer way is, and I assume they’re talking about the huge tower - but where does it touch the midday sun? Does that mean the top of the tower?[/spoiler] Bauraus (or however you spell his name) escorted me the entire way ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/210 "2006-03-27T21:31:24Z")
Is there a way to disable/kill the oblivion fire turrets, or do you just have to avoid them? ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/211 "2006-03-27T21:34:53Z")
Here’s the one I was talking about: [http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=300725&hl=](http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=300725&hl=) ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/212 "2006-03-27T22:00:38Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > From a min-max perspective (which I don’t play personally), you major skills should be the lowest. That way, you can rise up higher in level. For example, if your starting skill is \< 10, you have 9 levels to raise off that one skill. You can get 70 levels that way. > …snip… A valid argument, but a moot point, since Oblivion (unlike Morrowind) sets the skills you pick as major to 25 (Apprentice rank) + racial bonuses at the end of the tutorial dungeon. So aside from minor tweaks of racial bonuses, every char starts with the same levelling potential. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/213 "2006-03-27T22:27:51Z")
These oblivion levels are randomly generated, right? Has anyone ran into one where there’s no clear good path to the main tower? I’m in my second one, and short of some complex mountain climing jumping that may or may not work, there doesn’t seem to be any way to get there… ---
**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/214 "2006-03-27T22:29:59Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#): > > A valid argument, but a moot point, since Oblivion (unlike Morrowind) sets the skills you pick as major to 25 (Apprentice rank) + racial bonuses at the end of the tutorial dungeon. So aside from minor tweaks of racial bonuses, every char starts with the same levelling potential. Ahh, this reminds me: so Apprentice Rank is 25. What to you have to get to get Journeyman/Expert/Master? Does this include fortifications (from armor/rings/items)? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/215 "2006-03-27T22:33:23Z")
25, 50, 75, 100 are the ranks. Btw, scratch my last post. I got turned around in a cave, or something, that I needed to pass through. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/216 "2006-03-27T22:36:37Z")
I’m finding some good ass stuff in these oblivion gates. a light armor shield that does 17% spell reflection (and values at 7k), a ring of permanent 20% chameleon, and a ring of night eye - I guess I’m going to keep my rings and switch them out for whatever seems appropriate. It’d suck to have the entire game in blue with nighteye (which makes me wonder - is that how it is for the khajjit?), but really useful not to worry about casting/potions in dungeons. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/217 "2006-03-27T22:48:49Z")
> [@TimeWinder](#): > > A valid argument, but a moot point, since Oblivion (unlike Morrowind) sets the skills you pick as major to 25 (Apprentice rank) + racial bonuses at the end of the tutorial dungeon. So aside from minor tweaks of racial bonuses, every char starts with the same levelling potential. I realized that after I posted, but when I went to hit the edit button (the next day)…there was no edit button. When did the SDMB steal my edit button?! :mad: 🆒 ;j Anyway, you want to _minimize_ your major skills…let them start as close to 25 as possible. 7 skills starting at 25 = 52 levels (and you have 5 ‘free’ points that you can use to start above level 25). Get that 6th point, though, and you will be stuck at level 51. ---
**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/218 "2006-03-27T22:48:59Z")
Permanent Chameleon, oooh I want that! Another question: When I break into someone’s house, I can sneak around inside opening chests/cupboards etc., but after I’ve taken like 4 things total, a guard suddenly appears out of nowhere and wants to haul me off. Kinda cheesy since there’s no one in the house, and I’m sure no one saw me break in. Does this go away with higher sneak rank or what? Are there set limits on how many things you can lift from a house before guards are telepathically alerted? How about pickpocketing? Is it actually possible to pickpocket someone without them immediately turning around and calling you out? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/219 "2006-03-27T22:55:24Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > When did the SDMB steal my edit button?! :mad: 🆒 ;j You haven’t been able to edit posts since I’ve been hear, which has been years. > [@Jayrot](#): > > Permanent Chameleon, oooh I want that! > > Another question: When I break into someone’s house, I can sneak around inside opening chests/cupboards etc., but after I’ve taken like 4 things total, a guard suddenly appears out of nowhere and wants to haul me off. Kinda cheesy since there’s no one in the house, and I’m sure no one saw me break in. > > Does this go away with higher sneak rank or what? Are there set limits on how many things you can lift from a house before guards are telepathically alerted? > > How about pickpocketing? Is it actually possible to pickpocket someone without them immediately turning around and calling you out? I’m not sure what’s happening. I’ve stolen hundreds of things and never had that problem. Is your sneak icon dark, showing you’re not being observed? I’ve only gotten in trouble when someone observed me steal. By the way, does Chameleon actually do anything outside of sneak bonus? ---
**Author:** ![Jayrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Jayrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayrot)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2006, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180/220 "2006-03-27T23:02:36Z")
Yeah, sneak icon is dark. Besides the fact that I’m in an empty house. I’m only apprentice sneak (maybe 40?) so perhaps I just need to get better. It’s weird cause I have to choose what to steal since if I get too greedy the telepathic police show up :mad: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/two-weeks-to-oblivion/347180.md?page=12)