# Twoofers Punk'd!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twoofers-punkd/505584>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 7, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twoofers-punkd/505584 "2009-08-07T00:43:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twoofers-punkd/505584/1 "2009-08-07T00:43:32Z")

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I didn’t know where to put this, but it speaks for itself.

> **[washington independent game](http://washingtonindependent.com/)**
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> home made city upgrade game about boarding houses, telegraph offices, casinos, federal offices, printing presses, docks, land, carriage works, munitions, hotels.

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> It’s looking more and more like the forged “Kenyan birth certificate” released by Orly Taitz on Sunday was a prank by a supporter of President Obama.

Discuss.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twoofers-punkd/505584/2 "2009-08-07T00:46:39Z")

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Get your story straight. Birthers were punked. Twoofers are 9/11 conspiracy freaks.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twoofers-punkd/505584/3 "2009-08-07T00:47:32Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Get your story straight. Birthers were punked. Twoofers are 9/11 conspiracy freaks.

Why are they called “Twoofers”?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twoofers-punkd/505584/4 "2009-08-07T00:57:09Z")

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> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#):
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> Why are they called “Twoofers”?

Truther, pronounced like a child would say it.

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twoofers-punkd/505584/5 "2009-08-07T00:57:29Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Get your story straight. Birthers were punked. Twoofers are 9/11 conspiracy freaks.

It’s late. I’m tired. Amused, but tired.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twoofers-punkd/505584/6 "2009-08-08T00:47:43Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Get your story straight. Birthers were punked. Twoofers are 9/11 conspiracy freaks.

I’d love to see Truther/Twoofer watered down to mean anyone spouting similar made up bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twoofers-punkd/505584/7 "2009-08-08T01:07:51Z")

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Here’s the thing, though, and why punking them was a bad idea. This birth certificate will now be used as proof that Obama was born in Kenya. It’s fake, and you know that and I know that, but the people making the argument that he’s Kenyan won’t care, and from now on, whenever you get into arguments with birthers, they’ll bring up the “Kenyan birth certificate” and that’s just one more thing to have to debunk.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twoofers-punkd/505584/8 "2009-08-08T01:18:15Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> Here’s the thing, though, and why punking them was a bad idea. This birth certificate will now be used as proof that Obama was born in Kenya. It’s fake, and you know that and I know that, but the people making the argument that he’s Kenyan won’t care, and from now on, whenever you get into arguments with birthers, they’ll bring up the “Kenyan birth certificate” and that’s just one more thing to have to debunk.

That didn’t happen after Rathergate.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twoofers-punkd/505584/9 "2009-08-08T01:45:35Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> That didn’t happen after Rathergate.

But the Rather forgeries weren’t designed to appeal to the same people. The Birthers are recruiting their disciplies, to a disproportionate degree, from people who are hard core fundamentalists, uneducated, mentally ill, or a combination of those three. In other words, people especially unlikely to use critical thinking. The Rather forgeries were aimed at the general populace, and failed epically.

$50 says the “Kenyan Birth Certificate” will be a popular bit of evidence for YEARS to come.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twoofers-punkd/505584/10 "2009-08-08T04:08:33Z")

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I was reading at Free Republic as this BC and the debunking came out. Birfers are made of comedy, yet they are a bit terrifying. Some of those people are unwell.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twoofers-punkd/505584/11 "2009-08-08T15:12:00Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> But the Rather forgeries weren’t designed to appeal to the same people. The Birthers are recruiting their disciplies, to a disproportionate degree, from people who are hard core fundamentalists, uneducated, mentally ill, or a combination of those three. .

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You forgot ["disbarred](http://washingtonindependent.com/51798/key-birther-lawyer-was-disbarred-in-2004)".

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/twoofers-punkd/505584/12 "2009-08-08T16:49:01Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> That didn’t happen after Rathergate.

On this very board, the Rathergate documents were clung to by a few posters long after the obvious fact that they were forgeries was made plain. And even when they were reluctantly acknowledged as forgeries, the claim was made that they represented real facts, so the mere fact that they were forged should not be a barrier to accepting the truth of what they asserted.

Much the same idiocy will be applied to the Kenyan birth certificate.
