# TX Gov Rick Perry hosting National Day of Prayer **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 8, 2011, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709 "2011-06-08T03:53:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/61 "2011-06-09T18:38:47Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Sonofabitch. > > [The Story](http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/06/07/texas-gov-calls-for-prayer-and-fasting/?hpt=hp_t2) > > - > > (CNN)– On August 6, Texas Gov. Rick Perry wants you to drop the Texas BBQ, grab a moist towelette and fold your hands to pray. On Monday, Perry declared the date a “day of prayer and fasting for our nation’s challenges.” > > "America is in crisis, " the Republican governor says on a website promoting the event. “We have been besieged by financial debt terrorism, and a multitude of natural disasters.”\* > > and > > [WTF is the Book of Joel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Joel)? > > This is the first I’ve heard of this “Book of Joel”. The wikipedia description sounds like it’s um…kinda out there. > > The August 6 date also happens to be the anniversary of the Hiroshima bombing. I guess nuclear weapons are kinda like the wrath of the Angry Sky Spirit, and God doesn’t really like the Japanese anyway, so why not? > > Nothing like a National “Fuck You” to everybody in the country that doesn’t happen to love Jesus. And George W. Bush’s shit has dried on the Constitution, so it’s cool for Rick Perry to wipe his ass with it now. Yeah, yeah…it’s a loophole, but the Establishment Clause is just a technicality, anyway. > > Only upside is that some GoP governors seem to be less than enthusiastic about Perry’s invitation. > > Yeah…Heinlein was right. I expect Perry will take the stage and announce that his true name is Nehemiah Scudder. And we all know [where this leads.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_This_Goes_On%E2%80%94) > > :smack: WTF is “financial debt terrorism”? Is it anything like “there’s a black man in the white house, lets blame everything on him”? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/62 "2011-06-09T18:52:21Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I can only conclude that many people have been praying for high unemployment, skyrocketing debt and lots of natural disasters. Bastards. I do, but only for non-christians. ---
**Author:** ![Implicit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Implicit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Implicit)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/63 "2011-06-09T19:21:38Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > This is SD. Step it up. It’s the Pit. Your statement was that you don’t see any similarity between a Christian anti-gay group and the KKK. Both are Christian hate groups and a cite from wiki is all the trouble I’m prepared to go to for the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/64 "2011-06-09T19:59:15Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Perry is just grandstanding, so I guess he deserves a Pitting. > However, the Book of Joel has been in the bible for a very long time and you expressing ignorance of that fact along with shock at its contents makes you look a bit ill-informed. Because everyone should know everything. Are you fighting or promoting ignorance? [QUOTE=Damuri Ajashi] WTF is “financial debt terrorism”? Is it anything like “there’s a black man in the white house, lets blame everything on him”? [/QUOTE] If everything _is_ actually his fault, should we really call it “blaming”? ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/65 "2011-06-10T12:35:38Z")
Let’s not confuse Perry’s Reliant Stadium Revival with the National Day of Prayer–which has been going on for years. Perry’s promoting the jamboree on the website supplied by [Texas taxpayers](http://governor.state.tx.us/news/press-release/16246/) (as school funds are slashed mercilessly). Hey, we’re paying for a [a link to the event itself](http://theresponseusa.com/). > [@](#): > > **The Response: a call to prayer for a nation in crisis** > > Historic Crisis. > Historic Response. > Historic Breakthrough. > > On August 6, the nation will come together at Reliant Stadium in Houston, Texas for a solemn gathering of prayer and fasting for our country. Token minorities appear but it’s a pretty pale group. Including worthies from [The American Family Association](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/groups/american-family-association). The Texas Freedom Network has[a letter for any interested Texan](http://www.tfn.org/site/PageServer?pagename=issues_religious_right_watch_perry_prayer_event) to send, asking the bozo to “stop using faith as a political weapon.” Oh, and Perry apparently won’t let a little thing like threatening secession stop him from getting serious about a [run for President](http://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/2011/06/the-first-word-perry-actively-considering-running-for-president/). Why did he choose my city to kick off his campaign? A diverse city with a gay mayor? A city that went for Obama? As did most Texas cities… ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/66 "2011-06-10T15:24:59Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Why did he choose my city to kick off his campaign? A diverse city with a gay mayor? A city that went for Obama? As did most Texas cities… You’re not the Real Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/67 "2011-06-10T15:26:29Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > If everything _is_ actually his fault, should we really call it “blaming”? Are you saying the federal government was debt-free in 2008? ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/68 "2011-06-10T15:58:10Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > You’re not the Real Texas. Then why doesn’t Perry pitch a revival tent in the middle of The Real Texas for his Campaign Kickoff? Out where only the prairie dogs will be annoyed? ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/69 "2011-06-10T18:24:47Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Are you saying the federal government was debt-free in 2008? No. My comment was tongue-in-cheek. ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/70 "2011-06-10T18:41:07Z")
> [@Implicit](#): > > It’s the Pit. Your statement was that you don’t see any similarity between a Christian anti-gay group and the KKK. Both are Christian hate groups and a cite from wiki is all the trouble I’m prepared to go to for the Pit. Translation: Disingenuous analogies and laziness is what’s required in a Pit thread. Check. My turn to fling poo: Antisemites and Islamophobes are in the same category as separation of church and state groups. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/71 "2011-06-10T19:10:48Z")
To paraphrase Dr. Samuel Johnson: “appeals for prayer are the last refuge of a scoundrel” Seriously, do these fundies ever consider that asking God to “make things right” betrays a LACK of faith in divine providence?. In any case, do you want sleazy politicians praying for you? ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/72 "2011-06-10T19:28:11Z")
I like what someone posted in the comments: [QUOTE=Gospel According to Matthew] 5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. [/quote] ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/73 "2011-06-10T19:31:21Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > Translation: Disingenuous analogies and laziness is what’s required in a Pit thread. > > Check. > > My turn to fling poo: Antisemites and Islamophobes are in the same category as separation of church and state groups. > > :rolleyes: Your shit don’t stick. ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/74 "2011-06-10T20:46:55Z")
> [@bup](#): > > I like what someone posted in the comments: That’s a critique of Jews who pray in groups of ten and have group prayers. > [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Your shit don’t stick. Nor did theirs. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/75 "2011-06-10T21:19:08Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > That’s a critique of Jews who pray in groups of ten and have group prayers. [QUOTE=Matthew, again] **But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.** [/quote] Really? You think that’s only directed at Jews who pray in groups of ten? You doesn’t mean _you_? ---
**Author:** ![Implicit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Implicit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Implicit)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/76 "2011-06-10T21:22:36Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > Translation: Disingenuous analogies and laziness is what’s required in a Pit thread. No, if you are too retarded to draw two circles that overlap and label one Christians and the other one Hate Groups and understand that black hating and gay hating Christian groups go in the overlapping bit, there isn’t a damn thing I can do about it. > [@CitizenPained](#): > > My turn to fling poo: Antisemites and Islamophobes are in the same category as separation of church and state groups. > > :rolleyes: The Jew hating and Muslim hating Christians go in the overlapping bit too. If you want to wallow in shit being the apologist for Christian hate groups, be my guest. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/77 "2011-06-11T02:40:40Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > I’ve never understood why people feel threatened about conservative religious people. They’re _praying_, not conducting KKK activities. > > edit: He didn’t declare a National Day of Prayer. He declared a day of prayer for the nation. Someone who professes to be a Christian is forbidden by Jeebuz to do stuff like that. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/78 "2011-06-11T16:48:38Z")
> [@Implicit](#): > > No, if you are too retarded to draw two circles that overlap and label one Christians and the other one Hate Groups and understand that black hating and gay hating Christian groups go in the overlapping bit, there isn’t a damn thing I can do about it. > The Jew hating and Muslim hating Christians go in the overlapping bit too. > > If you want to wallow in shit being the apologist for Christian hate groups, be my guest. Christain fundamentalists are or aren’t hate groups, they are not terrorists. The KKK are terrorists. That’s why your own cite is titled “Christian Terrorism.” Imagine if one made the same conflation with another religion. I don’t know, maybe one practiced in the Middle East. What do you suppose your reaction would be? ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/79 "2011-06-11T18:00:32Z")
> [@saoirse](#): > > Christain fundamentalists are or aren’t hate groups, they are not terrorists. The KKK are terrorists. That’s why your own cite is titled “Christian Terrorism.” Imagine if one made the same conflation with another religion. I don’t know, maybe one practiced in the Middle East. What do you suppose your reaction would be? If you want to argue distinction between terrorist groups and hate groups by all means go for it. The connection that started this tangent was me pointing out the American Family Association is a hate group. They were a top funder for Perry’s little activity. Are they on the same level at the KKK of the past, I’d say no. The KKK of the past is certainly a group that deserves the infamy it has attained they represent a combination of violence, corruption of law and misinformation campaigns that I think would be impossible to bring forth today. However if you want to compare the current KKK to the American Family Association. The AFA is a far worse organization they do influence national politics with money and misinformation campaigns while the KKK is barely heard from and few if any politicians would be caught dead publicly taking money from them. ---
**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709/80 "2011-06-12T04:43:27Z")
you know, the whole national day of prayer thing is sponsored by the American Family Association…which the SPLC has labeled as a HATE GROUP. I see an ethics violation from hell here, and really thinks the people of texas need to get over their apathy, quit letting the retirees run the show and call for governor good hair to step down. I say this as a Texan who has gone from proud to ashamed in the space of two governors. Oh yeah…sorry about the whole George W. thing. we really didn’t mean to let him out of the state. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tx-gov-rick-perry-hosting-national-day-of-prayer/584709.md?page=5)