# Types of pizza

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** food-cooking\
**Created:** [March 25, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/types-of-pizza/938716 "2021-03-25T19:35:31Z")\
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In Sweden, they have something they call an Africana Pizza. It has bananas, peanuts, and curry powder.

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Sounds halfway to a pizza version of a Flying Jacob.

> **[Flying Jacob](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Jacob)**
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> Flying Jacob (Swedish: flygande Jacob/Jakob pronounced \[flyːˈgandɛ jɑːˈkɔp\]) is a Swedish casserole composed of chicken, cream, chilli sauce, bananas, roasted peanuts and bacon. The dish is baked in an oven and is usually served with rice and a salad.
> The dish was invented by Ove Jacobsson who worked in the air freight industry, hence the name. The recipe was first published in Swedish cooking magazine Allt om mat in 1976.

(And, yes, I have made and consumed a _Flygande Jacob_.)

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> The cut by itself isn’t the entire style.

> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Yeah, here in Chicago, “party cut” I know as squares

For 2 years I worked in a family owned pizzeria/Italian bistro (1979 - 80) in a NW suburb of Chi. We had two types of pizza: thin crust and deep dish (not quite as deep as others, prob what most would call pan pizza today.) The deep dish was cut in what we called “pie style” and the thin in “tavern style.” Both were made with our home made fresh dough, with panko style bread crumbs on the bottom. I’d also heard the squares called “party cut” but mostly tavern. It wasnt until recently (10-15ish years) that I’d heard the party cut term referring to slices.  
Now, as this thread is making quite clear, the regionality of different styles of pizza is abundant, but the term “tavern style” originated in the Chicago area after WWII, and when I first visited LA in 1973 they were calling it “chicago style” there. Long before deep dish took over the sobriquet.

You can call it whatever you’d like. I just call it pizza!

> **[Why Tavern-Style Pizza Is Chicago's Signature Food](https://www.chicagomag.com/dining-drinking/june-2020/tavern-style-pizza-history/)**
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> Chicagoans are ordering a ton of thin-crust pies during the pandemic. A brief history of the style — and why it may edge out Italian beef as our quintessential delicacy.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/types-of-pizza/938716/64 "2021-03-27T02:57:06Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> Now, as this thread is making quite clear, the regionality of different styles of pizza is abundant, but the term “tavern style” originated in the Chicago area after WWII, and when I first visited LA in 1973 they were calling it “chicago style” there. Long before deep dish took over the sobriquet.

That’s interesting. So then I wonder when “Chicago style” became synonymous with deep dish throughout the rest of the US. I was born in '75, so “Chicago style pizza” I always knew as deep dish, even though I had never had deep dish until the 90s, believe it or not. And I grew up and still live in the city (Midway area.)

Also interesting about “tavern style” and “tavern cut.” I never heard the former in my neighborhood, at least, until the 2000s, and there’s still people that look at me funny if I say “tavern style pizza.” It’s just “thin crust.” “Tavern-style pizza” makes you sound like a foodie in my neighborhood. Even within a city the vocabulary can differ by neighborhood (for example, my immediate neighborhood is “soda,” not “pop”) or even generation. Do kids these days even know what a classic Chicago tavern is? 🙂

I also find this amusing, given your story (which I believe):

> **[Chicago’s Beloved Thin and Crispy Tavern-Style Pizza Arrives in Los Angeles](https://la.eater.com/2020/8/13/21367793/chicago-tavern-style-pizza-los-angeles-ginos-east-new)**
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> The extra-thin pizzas are completely covered in toppings and cut square for maximum snackability

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/types-of-pizza/938716/65 "2021-03-27T03:09:34Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> And I grew up and still live in the city (Midway area.)
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> . . (for example, my immediate neighborhood is “soda,” not “pop”). . .

This explains alot. . .prob a Sox fan, too!  
😉

Interesting article. The place i ate in '73 was a CA chain called [Shakey’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakey%27s_Pizza) and they had “New York style”, too.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/types-of-pizza/938716/66 "2021-03-27T03:23:14Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> This explains alot. . .prob a Sox fan, too!

No, South Side Cubs fan, due to WGN, constant day games, and my parents being Polish and not knowing a thing about baseball to give me proper parental guidance. I blame it on them. (And the pop/soda thing is a fine line. Brighton Park and Archer Heights were “soda” places growing up. “Pop” was well understood, of course. Now, I’m not sure which is more popular in my stomping ground. My sneaking suspicion is that “soda” was more popular in Polish and some other Eastern European or Slavic neighborhoods, and “pop” everywhere else. That _seems_ to be a commonality in who uses “pop” and who uses “soda.”

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/types-of-pizza/938716/67 "2021-03-27T06:49:34Z")

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You’ve just killed 100 Italians.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/types-of-pizza/938716/68 "2021-03-27T07:04:05Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> I stopped going to Taco Bell when they discontinued the fabulous Mexican Pizza. It’s not really either of those things, but it was tasty.

There’s also a second type of Mexican pizza which I’ve seen in independent pizzerias and small (like specific to a single metro area) chains in the PNW; a typical round pizza crust with refried beans in lieu of sauce, cheddar cheese, taco-seasoned ground beef, onions and/or olives, and usually finished with cold lettuce and tomato after baking.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/types-of-pizza/938716/69 "2021-03-27T08:56:33Z")

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I … what? Do Swedes even know where curry comes from?

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/types-of-pizza/938716/70 "2021-03-27T11:04:42Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> In these threads I always feel like it’s important to remind the world that Chicago has **Three** (3) _styles of people_ which are all distinct and equally vibrant, exciting and delicious. Deep Dish, Stuffed and Tavern-style aka Chicago Cracker-crust. For my money, the most famous, Deep-Dish, is unquestionably the weakest of the trio.

(italics mine)

I always knew Chicago was diverse, and I applaud your sense of inclusion, but I’m not sure the Deep-Dish folks would appreciate being designated as weaklings.

mmm

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/types-of-pizza/938716/71 "2021-03-27T11:16:18Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Do Swedes even know where curry comes from?

Do Swedes even know where bananas and peanuts come from?

> **[We Tried The Banana Pizza That's Freaking People Out](https://www.buzzfeed.com/krishrach/people-were-getting-angry-about-banana-on-pizza-so-we-decide)**
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> "This should replace Hawaiian pizza."

Banana, curry powder and peanuts! 😬

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/types-of-pizza/938716/72 "2021-03-27T12:19:14Z")

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Every year, during passover, we enjoy matzo pizza.

Put some slices of matzo on a baking sheet. Pour canned tomato sauce over it and spread it around with the back of a spoon. Sprinkle with supermarket grated mozzarella, and pop under the broiler until the cheese it melty and the edges of the matzo are crispy. Eat immediately, before it turns into a soggy mess. Pepperoni, broccoli, etc. are optional.

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**Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/types-of-pizza/938716/73 "2021-03-27T14:26:15Z")

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In Canton, MI, there’s an Indian-style pizza place called “Curry on Crust - Desi Pizza”.

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**Post date:** [March 28, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/types-of-pizza/938716/74 "2021-03-28T00:48:06Z")

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My mom was a lunch lady for a while. Occasionally she’d buy a case of those for us at home. They were made by Heinz, and the box was labeled “The educated Pizza.” They were great, and twice as good when baked at home where you could crisp them up a bit!

Before our school system latched onto those, we had Pizza Burgers every now and then. They were the two halves of a small burger bun topped with some sauce, diced garlic bologna, and some white and yellow cheese. Yum!

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> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#):
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> English muffin pizza. I haven’t had one in over 40 years but I remember them as being a pretty good go to when I was a kid with no way to get real pizza.

We made those in the toaster oven, I think in junior high school (around 1980), as an afterschool snack. (I was getting home around 3pm and we didn’t sit down for dinner until 5 or 6pm.)

And of course there’s [New Haven-style pizza](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven-style_pizza), which is of course the finest pizza in the world.

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> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#):
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> English muffin pizza. I haven’t had one in over 40 years but I remember them as being a pretty good go to when I was a kid with no way to get real pizza.

My wife and I actually made a bunch of those on New Year’s Eve (since it was just the two of us). They were really delicious; we’ll have to do that again soon.

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The best frozen pizza I’ve ever had was Motor city Pizza co. supreme pizza. I normally don’t even like supreme, but something about their supreme is amazing. Far better than their pepperoni

[https://preview.redd.it/a5cu7n8o3ij61.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=5a6bdf07a2ea0730cb484a2db78b81c5fa8e2fd7](https://preview.redd.it/a5cu7n8o3ij61.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=5a6bdf07a2ea0730cb484a2db78b81c5fa8e2fd7)

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> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#):
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> Columbus, Ohio pizza - I do not believe this originated here, and it’s not technically called this. I’ve heard some call it Midwest tavern/bar/pub pizza or something similar. But if you live here around 90% of people seem to exclusively eat this. It was commercially popularized by Donatos and most of the local chains make very similar pizza. It is thin crispy, cracker-like crust, often with cornmeal on the bottom. The cheese (I think shredded mozz) and sauce cover the whole pizza, with no edge crust (it’s flat). It is round and cut into rectangles. Almost everyone here by default eats this cracker pizza with cupped pepperoni. If the pizza is not completely covered with pepperoni so that the cheese and sauce are not visible, people ask why the toppings are so skimpy. People are traumatized by pizza made with pizza dough and cut in slices.

Is this different than Dayton style pizza or the same style?

Are you talking about pizza king pizza?

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So, you either have deep dish or the cracker rectangle pizza there?

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Like this. I moved to Columbus from the east coast and I’ve never lived anywhere else. Where I’m from, pizza comes in slices and is made with pizza dough, even if it’s not “New York” style. I will have to try that Motor City one, as I’ve seen it around.

[![](https://media.bizj.us/view/img/11323521/donatos-pepperoni*1200xx3000-1688-0-156.jpg) ](https://media.bizj.us/view/img/11323521/donatos-pepperoni*1200xx3000-1688-0-156.jpg)

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