# Tyson Gay (Olympic runner) 15 year old daughter shot and killed. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 17, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792 "2016-10-17T00:08:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/1 "2016-10-17T00:08:31Z")
He just competed in Rio a few weeks ago. His daughter 15, was a rising track start too. Ran the same events, 100 meters, 200 meters and relay. I can’t imagine allowing my daughter out of the house at 4am. She wasn’t in either car and it appears she was an innocent bystander hit by an errant bullet. This was in Lexington Kentucky. Such a senseless tragedy. [http://www.lex18.com/story/33400669/15-year-old-daughter-of-olympic-runner-tyson-gay-killed-in-lexington-shooting](http://www.lex18.com/story/33400669/15-year-old-daughter-of-olympic-runner-tyson-gay-killed-in-lexington-shooting) [https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/37672758?client=ms-android-motorola](https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/37672758?client=ms-android-motorola) > [@](#): > > Lexington police say the shooting happened around 4:00 a.m. Sunday morning. According to police, a group of men in two cars outside of Cookout began shooting at each other before speeding off down Broadway. > > Police say 15-year-old Trinity Gay was shot in the neck and taken to UK Hospital where she later died. An autopsy is scheduled for Monday morning. > > Police say they believe they have located one of the cars that could be involved in this shooting and they are questioning possible suspects. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/2 "2016-10-17T00:26:38Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > it appears she was an innocent bystander hit by an errant bullet… > > _Such a senseless tragedy_. As are pretty much all innocent bystander murders; or is this one more tragic because she was related to a name you knew? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/3 "2016-10-17T00:30:36Z")
I don’t think it’s unusual to relate strongly to the death of public figures or their relatives. It puts a name and face to the tragedy. Gay was ranked right up there with Usain Bolt. Gay holds the US record for the 100 meters. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/4 "2016-10-17T00:51:10Z")
More information. Tyson Gay lives in Orlando FL. His daughter had visited him last week. She tweeted not too long before the shooting. [https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/national/tyson-gay-teenage-daughter-trinity-killed-shooting-article-1.2832739?client=ms-android-motorola](https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/national/tyson-gay-teenage-daughter-trinity-killed-shooting-article-1.2832739?client=ms-android-motorola) ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/5 "2016-10-17T10:49:23Z")
She tweeted “of course they start shootin’” with a “crying laughing” emoji, as a gunfight takes place outside the window of the restaurant she’s in (at 4AM on a Sunday). That shows a remarkable casualness about violence; I wonder what kind of upbringing she had that led to that attitude. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/6 "2016-10-17T20:10:02Z")
I don’t understand allowing any child to be out at 4AM. It’s too dangerous. Police have arrested three suspects. [https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN12H1K9?client=ms-android-motorola](https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN12H1K9?client=ms-android-motorola) > [@](#): > > Father and son Chazerae Taylor, 38, and D’markeo Taylor, 19, were charged with wanton endangerment in connection with the shooting. Dvonta Middlebrooks, 21, was charged with wanton endangerment and possession of a firearm by a convicted felon, Lexington police said in a statement late on Sunday. > > “Investigators determined that Middlebrooks was in the parking lot and fired multiple shots at the time of the incident,” the police statement said. > > A homicide investigation is ongoing. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/7 "2016-10-17T20:38:36Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I don’t understand allowing any child to be out at 4AM. It’s too dangerous. Is it? Off the top of my head, the most dangerous thing that most of us do is be in close proximity to automobiles. Vehicular accident is the most common cause of death teenagers in the US. Not a lot of cars on the roads at 4am. Or does it just _feel_ dangerous? ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/8 "2016-10-17T21:11:00Z")
Well, [quick](http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2009-10-20/news/0910200159_1_violent-crimes-police-statistics-incidents) stats from Chicago in 2009 seem to bear out **aceplace57** ’s “feelings”, at least for violent assault and murder: > [@](#): > > The high-profile muggings this summer in Lincoln Park and Lakeview, most of which happened from 2 to 5 a.m., according to news reports, also indicate a tendency for early morning attacks. And police statistics show most murders in the city happen from midnight to 4 a.m. And this [PDF](http://www.forecastingprinciples.com/files/pdf/Felson_and_Poulsen,_Simple.pdf) shows that, in this study of crime in 2000, the hours between 12am and 4am (17% of the day) account for 25% of robberies. Overall crime seems to dip between 11pm and 6am, just when rate of violent crime is peaking. Note: It is difficult to track down specific stats for shooting incidents by time of day, which is specifically what happened in the OP. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/9 "2016-10-17T21:36:47Z")
The grocery stores in Little Rock no longer stay open 24/7. Kroger closes at 2AM. I’ve talked with the cashiers and they said several incidents influenced the decision. I often do my shopping between 10 and 11PM. Less people and less hassle. I make a point not to go out after 11PM. YMMV I prefer to be home. Our teen daughters had a 10PM curfew weeknights. 11PM weekends. We bumped their curfew up an hour after they turned 17. I can’t relate to any parent allowing a teen out at 4AM. But, that’s their decision and their responsibility for the consequences. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/10 "2016-10-17T21:46:56Z")
She may have lied to her mother about where she was going, or she may have indeed gone to a friend’s house and then they sneaked out. Regardless, she didn’t deserve to be murdered. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/11 "2016-10-17T21:52:26Z")
Wanton endangerment, possession of a firearm by a felon. At court today, Middlebrooks’ bail was set at $12,500; bail for Chazerae Taylor and D’markeo Taylor was ordered at $5,000 each, the AP said. Seems pretty light considering the priors and a girl is dead. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/12 "2016-10-17T21:53:31Z")
It is a tragedy. I’m glad the police quickly identified the suspects. But nothing will ever replace a murdered child. They may still press murder charges after the investigation is complete. Depends on what they learn. It’s not easy for any parent to let their kids go out. My wife and I had our share of anxiety and stress. The first car dates are the worst. But it’s a valuable step in letting them grow up and learn responsibility. It’s our job to guide them and trust they’ll make the right decisions. ---
**Author:** ![moojja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e5b9ba/32.png) [@moojja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moojja)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/13 "2016-10-17T22:35:30Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I don’t understand allowing any child to be out at 4AM. It’s too dangerous. Is she a serious track athlete? B/c I have heard of young athletes who gets up at 3 am in order to get to the gym and train and then go to school at 7. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/14 "2016-10-17T23:31:16Z")
A lot of parents wouldn’t allow their kids to stay until 4 am simply because when you go to bed late you get in the habit of getting up late and it’s a pain to get kids up so they will make it to school. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/15 "2016-10-18T06:37:06Z")
I empathize & sympathize with the father. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/16 "2016-10-18T07:32:45Z")
> [@GusNSpot](#): > > I empathize & sympathize with the father. Why not also the mother? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/17 "2016-10-18T10:32:07Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > A lot of parents wouldn’t allow their kids to stay until 4 am simply because when you go to bed late you get in the habit of getting up late and it’s a pain to get kids up so they will make it to school. What late? I used to wake up at 3am to study. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/18 "2016-10-18T16:46:12Z")
> [@Doctor\_Jackson](#): > > Well, [quick](http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2009-10-20/news/0910200159_1_violent-crimes-police-statistics-incidents) stats from Chicago in 2009 seem to bear out **aceplace57** ’s “feelings”, at least for violent assault and murder: Well, yes, if you consider only the dangers that peak during those hours, then it is more dangerous. But assault and murder (in most places) are not nearly as dangerous as cars are. Plus, most people know where the “dangerous” neighborhoods are in terms of crime, and can avoid being there. Pretty hard to avoid the neighborhoods where people drive cars. And while mugging/assualt is often a crime perpetrated by strangers, homicide isn’t, which makes the danger of homicide at a particular hour less relevant, since people who know you generally know where you live. Being out and about isn’t much of an added risk. I think this is one of those cases where common intuition is wrong. It’s probably safer to be out at 3 or 4am than in the middle of the day. But when you consider only the scary dangers of crime, and not the mundane danger of being hit by a car, it feels more dangerous. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/19 "2016-10-18T18:49:51Z")
It’s amazing a lot more people weren’t hit. > **[Tyson Gay is joined by thousands at vigil for slain daughter](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3846306/Tyson-Gay-joined-thousands-mourners-candlelit-vigil-daughter-Trinity-15-year-old-s-friends-reveal-knew-suspects-accused-shooting-dead.html)** > > The Olympian and the slain teenager's mother, Shoshanna Boyd, embraced during the memorial service at Lafayette High School, in Lexington, Kentucky. > [@](#): > > Princess said that around 2am, herself, two cousins and Trinity left the party in a small group and drove to Cook Out fast-food restaurant. > > Although the restaurant closes at 2.30am, the drive-thru is still open and a crowd who had been at the house party began to gather in the parking lot. > > ‘I think there was a good 50 or 60 people in the parking lot,’ Princess said. She said some guys were driving in circles around Cook Out and others were out of their cars, hanging out, listening to music and dancing. > \ > > said they heard more than 20 gunshots at the Cook Out and that everyone was desperately trying to take cover. > > ‘They emptied out a clip and reloaded a clip and emptied out that too,’ Taylor said. ‘It was so many shots.’ > > Morgan added: ‘They were still shooting when we pulled out in the car to get Trinity to hospital. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792/20 "2016-10-18T19:04:59Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I don’t understand allowing any child to be out at 4AM. It’s too dangerous. Are you talking about downtown Detroit, or the middle of an empty field in Nebraska? Are you talking about 4-year-old children, or 17-year-old children? Cuz it sounds like you’re talking about all children everywhere, no matter what age or location. Which makes your assertion utterly ridiculous. When I was 15 I got up at 4AM on weekends to deliver newspapers. This was in a sleepy upscale Minneapolis suburb; I rarely saw _anyone_, let alone a miscreant who might do me harm. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tyson-gay-olympic-runner-15-year-old-daughter-shot-and-killed/768792.md?page=2)