# U.S.A Hates Canada? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 27, 2002, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231 "2002-11-27T22:48:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/41 "2002-11-28T14:35:10Z")
Surely, **KenP** , you don’t think of Texas as a fly-over state, do you? Of course, Texans hate both the wacko politician/carpetbaggers on the east coast, and the wierdo hippie/socialists on the west coast. Actually, it’s not really a hate, it’s just a massive self-love. 😉 Oh, Canada is great! In fact, do you know how to spell “Canada?” C-Eh?-N-Eh?-D-Eh? I kid. I kid. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/42 "2002-11-28T17:06:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CBEscapee \* > \*\*I think there is a lot of truth to your comments Slugworth. I’ve spent the past 30 years outside of the US and the anti-American rhetoric by Canadians I’ve run into is very common. It almost appears as if they feel it is their life’s duty to speak disparingly about the US whenever they meet a Yank. And the only time I hear Americans complain about Canadians is after they have had to listen to a few to many of their diatribes. \*\* There was an interesting article about Canadian identity and the need for so many Canadian’s to separate themselves from the U.S. The two countries are _so similar_ that travelling Canadians are often mistaken for Americans, which is why we always travel with Canadian flags sewn to our backpacks. (Side note: I knew someone who was almost beat up by a group of thugs in Liverpool because they thought he was American – when they found out he was Canadian, they apologized and bought him lotsa beer…) Think of it this way. Imagine you were the little brother of the Highschool Football Hero Quarterback [sup]TM[/sup]. When you finally get to highschool everything you do is going to be in your big brother’s shadow – so you fight for your own identity: You say football is for stupid neanderthals and you join the swim team instead. So there is a slightly “anti-American” attitude that has more to do with saying: “We are are not the U.S. Mini-Me!” It manifests itself in the occasional “the U.S. sucks because…” diatribe, even the though the reality is that Canadians do think of the U.S. as a best buddy – like the high school Swim Team kid who’s still best buddies with his Highschool Football Hero big brother. ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/43 "2002-11-28T17:21:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mephisto \* > \*\* > I recently found out my mom was from Canada. 🙂 \*\* I can trump that. My friend Rebekah, resident of California for nigh on 40 years, discovered recently that she was actually born in Canada, and thus a Canadian citizen! ---
**Author:** ![Coffeeguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/958977/32.png) [@Coffeeguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coffeeguy)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/44 "2002-11-28T17:31:12Z")
There’s still a fairly lively ongoing debate in Canada as to weather the U.S. should be admitted as a province. With the U.S. being only a little bit smaller than Canada, it would almost double Canada’s size. And Canadians seem to be familiar enough with the foreign-ness of U.S. culture to manage the absorption gracefully. -Coffeeguy ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/45 "2002-11-28T17:36:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Feynn \* > \*\*We are harmless unless provoked… 😉 > > \*\* :poke: poke: yeah I can see waves of pissed off Canadians on horseback in an all out invasion. Yelling "see what happens eh? when you provoke a **CANADIAN!!!** **we’ll show you what wer’e all abooot!!"** ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/46 "2002-11-28T17:41:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coffeeguy \* > \*\*There’s still a fairly lively ongoing debate in Canada as to weather the U.S. should be admitted as a province. \*\* _All of the U.S.???_ Couldn’t we just admit a few select states? Just the good ones. ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/47 "2002-11-28T17:43:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tony Montana \* > \*\*:poke: poke: yeah I can see waves of pissed off Canadians on horseback in an all out invasion. Yelling "see what happens eh? when you provoke a **CANADIAN!!!** **we’ll show you what wer’e all abooot!!"** \*\* No, no, no – we’d be on _mooseback_. It’s much more intimidating than it sounds, trust me. ---
**Author:** ![boomvark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@boomvark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boomvark)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/48 "2002-11-28T18:36:14Z")
**Wumpus** said: > [@](#): > > They don’t seem to realize that Pat Buchanan has been nothing more than a paid sideshow entertainer for lo these many years, and currently has the political importance and clout of, say, Ozzy Osbourne. Less. At least Ozzy gets invited to hang out at the White House once in awhile. I still think the only reason Pat ever agreed to co-host Crossfire is that he liked the combination of cross and fire. WRT the OP, I’ve heard Americans make a lot of snide remarks about a few Canadian politicians, but have heard very few express hatred, or even dislike, of Canadians at large. (The cited invective does sound a lot like stuff I’ve heard on Fox News. Thing is, Fox is only ‘Fair and Balanced’ in the sense of: Fair as distinguished from constantly, irredeemably worthless, and balanced … on the right leg.) ---
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/49 "2002-11-28T18:38:22Z")
Mind you, moose bites can be pretty nasty. ---
**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/50 "2002-11-28T18:53:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coffeeguy \* > \*\*I can’t give you specific air-dates etc., but I can tell you that I’ve heard the likes of CNN & Fox call Canada “ “Less of a friend than Saudi Arabia”, \*\* ``` As **Slipster** says, us older Americans will NOT forget the Iranian hostage crisis, and when Americans searched for sanctuary in Teheran, the only hiding place they were given was the basement at the Canadian Embassy. Everyone else locked them out. ``` That’s the only reason we didn’t nuke you when you came up with Celine Dion. ``` That's why we settled for economic warfare. We bought out Tim Horton's. ``` > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coffeeguy \*\*\* > There’s still a fairly lively ongoing debate in Canada as to weather the U.S. should be admitted as a province. > \*\* ``` Oh, a smart-ass, huh? [sub] should fit in well around here...[/sub] ``` > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Splanky \*\*\* > I hear way too much Canada bashing around my way. Too much of the classic “blame Canada” and making fun of canadian accents > \*\* As opposed to us NEVER making fun of Southern accents, or AH-nuld S.'s Austrian one? > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eats\_crayons \*\*\* > No, no, no – we’d be on mooseback. It’s much more intimidating than it sounds, trust me. > \*\* ``` Bah! Real men can ride a horse. We don't need something with handlebars. ``` ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/51 "2002-11-28T19:18:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lurkernomore \* > \*\* That’s the only reason we didn’t nuke you when you came up with Celine Dion. \*\* On behalf of Canadians everywhere, I do indeed apologise for unleashing her on the rest of the world. I’m surprised there aren’t more nations gunning for us. Celine Dion was part Canadian weapons of mass destruction program. Highly classified “BANSHEE” program that included Alanis Morrissette and Mitsou. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/52 "2002-11-28T21:54:21Z")
> [@](#): > > _ **Barbarian** said:_ > My friend Rebekah, resident of California for nigh on 40 years, discovered recently that she was actually born in Canada, and thus a Canadian citizen! Time for her to start learning French and speaking metric! 🙂 > [@](#): > > _ **lurkernomore** said:_ > Bah! Real men can ride a horse. We don’t need something with handlebars. Parents of a friend of mine totaled their '69 Mercedes against a moose. The moose walked away. Try _that_ with a horse! ---
**Author:** ![tisiphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tisiphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tisiphone)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/53 "2002-11-28T23:35:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tony Montana \* > \*\*: poke: poke: yeah I can see waves of pissed off Canadians on horseback in an all out invasion. Yelling "see what happens eh? when you provoke a **CANADIAN!!!** **we’ll show you what wer’e all abooot!!"** \*\* Yeeeees. Well. Historically speaking, anybody that’s managed to irritate us enough to get us to quit squabbling amongst ourselves has been Really Sorry afterwards… 😛 😉 I also apologise for Celine. And Alan Thicke. It really wasn’t intentional, honest. THAT would be against the Geneva Convention. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/54 "2002-11-28T23:50:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lno \* > \*\*Mind you, moose bites can be pretty nasty. \*\* \ Maybe _that’s_ what John Irving meant when he said in **A Prayer For Owen Meany** that people in northern New England have more in common with Canadians than New Yorkers. I bet NY doesn’t have 10,000 moose (which, as an interesting statistic, is 5 times our homeless vet population) running around their state. To be honest, I’m one of those people who feels that Canada is about as different from where I live as, say, VT. Sure, the road signs in Canada are different, as is the money, but it _looks_ pretty much the same, which isn’t so odd since it’s only a 3 hour drive to get there from here. Some people speak French there, but a lot of the signs are in French and English in parts of NH and ME too, so that’s not so strange. I suppose parts of Canada are radically different than where I live, but not the parts I’ve seen. ---
**Author:** ![RiverRunner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/977dab/32.png) [@RiverRunner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RiverRunner)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231/55 "2002-11-28T23:50:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lno \* > \*\*Mind you, moose bites can be pretty nasty. \*\* Special moose effects: Olaf Prot RR [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-a-hates-canada/139231.md?page=2)