A Embassy has a lot of staff, secretaries, supervisors, managers. You’re saying they all fall under the local country’s labor laws?
I didn’t realize that.
I know embassy’s will hire local people for some jobs. Cooks, cashiers, and general help. But nothing important. You can’t give a stranger the keys to the file room or access to the diplomat’s private offices. That would be a very bad idea.
There is no need for a solution to the problem of the US government having laws against holding people against their will. Instead, there is a need for a solution to the problem of the US government not enforcing those laws.
I looked at the Wikiepdia article earlier, and it wasn’t very illuminating about the legal dispute. I’m of course aware of Bhopal tragedy, which continues to be a mind-blowing disaster.
I think you know perfectly well that the average person in any country would view the Afghan penal system with great skepticism. Do you view the US justice system as being equivalent to the Afghan legal system? I bet you don’t.
I will say my own view that if some notorious criminal wanted in the United States were tried in, say, the UK courts and imprisoned for a very long time, I would have reasonable faith that justice was served.
What does the “Osama example” have to do with an India/US treaty? That is what binds both sides in this case. If Pakistan (not Afghanistan, dunno where you got that from) had managed to arrest Osama, then their treaty would be relevant. The Indian one would still be irrelevant.
You, for whatever reason, seem to have no regard for either justice or law, merely wanting revenge for the perceived mistreatment of your diplomat, and with frankly unpleasant irony no regard whatsoever for the actual, illegal, mistreatment of her maid.
It’s funny that people are still making noise about this. The US has told India that all they have to do is provide documentation as required by the extradition treaty. Of course, that documentation includes evidence. And given that the incident was caused by Indian citizens with no input or oversight by Anderson, I’m not holding my breath for that evidence to be provided.
diplomats who help escape thugs and criminals are criminals themselves n deserve to be arrested n booted out of india. So its nice. But also Disappointing that we might not have the arrest.
If there was indeed any abuse apart from the wage issue, I’m absolutely agreed that it is unacceptable on moral grounds as well. My own guess is that those charges are fabricated by the maid - they help make her case stronger and allow her family to be given US visas under the trafficking charge. Nor do I see any way that the question could be settled - it would come down to the maid’s word against Khobragade’s. It’s entirely possible that prosecutorial discretion was not applied because this appears to be a common problem that crops up. It is entirely likely that they were going for deterrence and miscalculated the Indian response.
As far as I know, he has not defended her treatment of the maid. He has protested Khobragade’s ill treatment by the US. With elections in three months and him being primary challenger, of course he would make statements of that nature. If he were to come to power, I have no reason to think that he would want poor relations with the US. He seems to be a fairly pragmatic type where governance is concerned. There is of course the matter that the US has felt free to judge him persona non grata in the matter of the 2002 riots where Indian courts have concluded that there is insufficient evidence to judge him guilty. I personally think that is unreasonably arrogant of the US, but I haven’t heard Modi remark on it.
This isn’t just tit for tat. I believe the maid’s husband had charges against him in India and the officer who processed his visa papers is the one who has been expelled.
On the contrary, it’s finally growing up by not kowtowing and by revoking those diplomatic rights and privileges which its own diplomats don’t enjoy. Better that it should have done this without such ugliness to precede it, but good that it happens nonetheless.
Their diplomats do indeed have diplomatic rights and privileges, but their consular and support people do not, just like with every other country, including the US.
You’re wrong. Consular staff too have rights and privileges, though they are more limited. In any case, I was not referring to immunity. The measures taken by India have been to revoke those privileges granted to US staff/embassy which are not reciprocated. Things like special airport access, duty free commercial operations within embassy premises, immunity to family members etc.
Thats a good suggestion and has come up here.
Maids’ salaries would most likely be less than Devyani’s maid.
And if the US objects and denies visa to workers on wages ground, India kicks Diplomats’ relatives, maids and drivers out of India imho. And Prohibits Indians from working in US embassies and consulates. Diplomats should be able to clean their embassies and drive their cars themselves.
Or instead of doing all these impressive bureaucratic contortions, they could just pay their maids a decent salary. That’s also an option.
I mean, seriously - the amount of effort the Indian government is expending for the sole purpose of not allowing * Indian citizens* to make more money is just mind-boggling. Do you really have so much contempt for your own working class? For your own people?