# U.S. combat aircraft that were never used in combat?

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**Created:** [September 15, 2013, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-combat-aircraft-that-were-never-used-in-combat/668917 "2013-09-15T15:47:51Z")\
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> [@chacoguy](#):
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> The [B 36](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_B-36), thankfully, never dropped it’s bombs in earnest.

And the Earnestians still hold celebrations to that effect.

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Off the top of my head:  
(This is for U.S. service, only. Some of these may have seen combat with non-U.S. services, but I do not know how many other than the ones mentioned.) This also ignores one-off planes that never made it to squadron service such as the F3U or the F10F.)

FF-1 “Fifi”  
F2F  
F3F  
F8F Bearcat  
F11F Tiger (Aside from one shooting itself down)

F7U Cutlass  
F8C Helldiver

AM Mauler

MB-3 (first U.S. designed fighter used by Army Air Corps)

P-6 Hawk  
F2B  
F3B  
P-12 / F4B  
P-36 Hawk (Some were shot down by the U.S. when flown by Vichy France in the North African operations.)  
P-43 Lancer (Used in combat by other countries)

F-101 Voodoo

B-45 Tornado

P5M Marlin (Later SP5 was used in Vietnam, but only as reconnaissance)

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I think the French used the F-8F Bearcat in combat in Vietnam.

I thought the F-101 Voodoo had been used in combat in Vietnam, but I read that the reconnaissance version was the only one to see combat; and I’ve excluded unarmed missions.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-combat-aircraft-that-were-never-used-in-combat/668917/24 "2013-09-16T02:48:19Z")

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[Lockheed YF-12 interceptor](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_YF-12)

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-combat-aircraft-that-were-never-used-in-combat/668917/25 "2013-09-16T03:16:18Z")

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The [F4D/F-6 Skyray](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyray), as far as I know.

_Very_ technically, depending on how you define “U.S. combat aircraft” and “never used,” maybe the [F-21A.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-21_Kfir#Operational_history) Which I _don’t_ count, and which probably doesn’t count under the OP. But it’s got interesting rules weasel value. 😃

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> _Very_ technically, depending on how you define “U.S. combat aircraft” and “never used,” maybe the [F-21A.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-21_Kfir#Operational_history) Which I _don’t_ count, and which probably doesn’t count under the OP. But it’s got interesting rules weasel value. 😃

No, the Kfir is not a U.S. aircraft. It’s an Israeli aircraft that was used by the U.S., much like the F-104 was a U.S. aircraft that was used by other countries.

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> [@Slithy\_Tove](#):
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> The US never used the P26 in combat, but the Chinese and Spanish Republicans did. It’s main defense against Zeroes was that it was [so cute,](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Peashooter.arp.750pix.jpg) I mean, come on, how could you shoot it?

Those P-26’s are still one of my dream airplanes to own & fly.

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> No, the Kfir is not a U.S. aircraft. It’s an Israeli aircraft that was used by the U.S., much like the F-104 was a U.S. aircraft that was used by other countries.

…as indicated by my “how you define ‘U.S. combat aircraft’,” “technically,” and “weasel” comments. 😛

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Currently, the F-22.

Oh, those combat their own pilots 🙂

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2013, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-s-combat-aircraft-that-were-never-used-in-combat/668917/30 "2013-09-16T05:48:14Z")

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You guys are all forgetting the Spruce Goose.

(Runs and hides.)

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> [@astro](#):
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> [Lockheed YF-12 interceptor](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_YF-12)

I disagree with including the YF-12. The Y prefix indicates it was a prototype, as in “NOT IN SQUADRON SERVICE”, so I don’t consider it an official U.S. combat aircraft.

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> [@j\_sum1](#):
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> You guys are all forgetting the Spruce Goose.
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> (Runs and hides.)

It was a transport, not a combat aircraft.

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It likely doesn’t count, but I have a soft spot for the [Douglas XB-42 Mixmaster](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XB-42_Mixmaster).

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> It likely doesn’t count, but I have a soft spot for the [Douglas XB-42 Mixmaster](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XB-42_Mixmaster).

Hooooo-eee! That is one fugly plane.

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Really, really fast for a prop plane, though. If not for jets, it would have been a front-line bomber.

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Speaking of jets, the [Bell P-59 Airacomet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_P-59_Airacomet). Kind of 1930s sexy although not a super performer.

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> P-36 Hawk (Some were shot down by the U.S. when flown by Vichy France in the North African operations.)

A handful of P-36s got off the ground at Pearl Harbor and were credited with a couple of Zekes, but that’s it for US service.

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Hooooo-eee! That is one fugly plane.

It’s not without competition. The [YFM-1](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_YFM-1_Airacuda) never saw combat either

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Pretty much the entire combat-aircraft output of the US between late WW2 and early Vietnam qualifies. And that’s a whole lotta types.

If you modify that to read [WWI and the mid thirties](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_States_fighter_aircraft_1920%E2%80%931929), it’s a whole lotta types. [P-16](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berliner-Joyce_P-16) for example.

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I’m having trouble verifying that the B-50 ever saw combat in Korea. The B-29 certainly did, but it looks like the B-50 may have stayed parked, waiting for the war to go nuclear.

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