# 'u' with 'oo' sound

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-with-oo-sound/838878>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 19, 2019, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-with-oo-sound/838878 "2019-08-19T09:42:04Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 20, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-with-oo-sound/838878/41 "2019-08-20T23:47:07Z")

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> [@Melbourne](#):
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> 1. What English words do you know that use u for oo sound?

SCUBA.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-with-oo-sound/838878/42 "2019-08-21T00:50:15Z")

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Ruby Tuesday, who could hang a name on you?

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-with-oo-sound/838878/43 "2019-08-21T02:13:17Z")

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Ra-ra-Rasputin  
Lover of the Russian queen  
There was a cat that really was gone

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-with-oo-sound/838878/44 "2019-08-21T02:20:18Z")

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In Xanadu did Kubla Khan  
A stately pleasure-dome decree

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-with-oo-sound/838878/45 "2019-08-21T02:24:36Z")

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The set that’s smart is intruding at nudist parties in studios; anything goes!

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-with-oo-sound/838878/46 "2019-08-21T02:45:39Z")

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In the US, the name “Luke” is pronounced along a range from a straight-up L-oo-k (rhymes with “moon” or “spoon”) — no lip movement toward a “kiss” — to just a bit of such lip movement, more of a “lewk.”

In many British-y countries, certainly in the British English as pronounced by some South Asians, an “ee” is indeed inserted before the “oo,” with or without that lip rounding at the end — hence, “lee-ook” or “lee-ewk.”

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-with-oo-sound/838878/47 "2019-08-21T02:52:44Z")

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(If the tongue happens to be high against the palate, I can see this as an IPA /j/, but I can hardly hear the difference between this and a normal “ee” in this situation).

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-with-oo-sound/838878/48 "2019-08-21T10:33:45Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> In the US, the name “Luke” is pronounced along a range from a straight-up L-oo-k (rhymes with “moon” or “spoon”) — no lip movement toward a “kiss” — to just a bit of such lip movement, more of a “lewk.”

How about “Ruth”? (“Ruthless,” too, I guess.) That’s just R-oo-th, right? You’d have to pretty much _parody_ a Southern accent to get R-ee-oo-th.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-with-oo-sound/838878/49 "2019-08-21T10:59:20Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> How about “Ruth”? (“Ruthless,” too, I guess.) That’s just R-oo-th, right? You’d have to pretty much _parody_ a Southern accent to get R-ee-oo-th.

Tree-oo dat.

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**Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/u-with-oo-sound/838878/50 "2019-08-21T14:09:36Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> There are even languages where a “long vowel” and a “short vowel” are exactly the same except for length of actual pronunciation, they are the same sound.

Hungarian would be one of those. Hungarian has pairs for all the vowels: [a, á], [e, é], [i, í], [o, ó], [ö,ő], [u, ú], [ü, ű]. In the first two pairs, in addition to length, the sound does slightly change, but in all the others, the only difference is length. In IPA, they would be [ɒ, aː], [ɛ, eː] and then [i, i:]. [o, o:], [ø, ø:], [u, u:], [y, y:].

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