# UEFA Euro 2016 thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 29, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004 "2016-05-29T16:33:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/181 "2016-06-24T08:37:00Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> No more draws in this tourney

Actually, that’s not true. Any one of the remaining matches—including the championship—could end in a draw. Hell, ALL of the matches could, theoretically. All that needs to happen is for both teams to have the same number of goals after extra time.

Of course, if that happens they’ll go to Kicks From The Penalty Mark (commonly called a “penalty shootout” or just “penalties”) to determine which team _advances_. But those penalty shootout kicks don’t count as goals, therefore they don’t add to the score, therefore the final score is even and there’s no winner of the match.

A match that goes to “penalties” is recorded as a draw even though one teams “wins” in a practical sense in that they advance to the next round (or win the tournament if it’s the championship game).

However, when it comes to points toward your international ranking (i.e. the FIFA world ranking), in most international tournaments you do get more ranking points for a draw + penalty shootout victory than for a “regular” draw during the group stages . But you get \*less \*ranking points than you would have if you had won the game on goals rather then drawn after extra time and gone to penalties.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/182 "2016-06-24T13:36:06Z")

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Which in turns leads to the trivia question, what is the smallest number of goals a team can score and win the World Cup (or Euros)? The answer, of course, being

0 - you don’t count penalty shoot-outs, so you could draw all your group games 0-0, progress in second (or third, in this tournament) with your three points, draw all your KO games 0-0, and win them all on penalties.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/183 "2016-06-25T14:42:28Z")

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What a goal by Shaqiri! Goal of the tournament so far.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/184 "2016-06-25T17:43:22Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> What a goal by Shaqiri! Goal of the tournament so far.

Gerard Pique must be very proud 😛

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**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/185 "2016-06-25T17:49:03Z")

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Disgraceful that Wales doesn’t sub for Ashley Williams.

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**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/186 "2016-06-25T17:59:26Z")

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> [@JeffB](#):
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> Disgraceful that Wales doesn’t sub for Ashley Williams.

I thought the same thing. Very happy about the goal… saved us from another 30 minutes of “football”.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/187 "2016-06-25T20:04:51Z")

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The Croatia-Portugal game is a lot of ZZzzzzz, thus far.

Missed the first two games today, were they that bad?

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/188 "2016-06-25T20:23:29Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> The Croatia-Portugal game is a lot of ZZzzzzz, thus far.
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> Missed the first two games today, were they that bad?

Uh, yeah. Shaqiri’s goal was the only thing worth watching over the 1st 2 games. Plus, some crisp penalty kick taking from Poland.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/189 "2016-06-25T20:57:05Z")

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For those who criticized the USA lack of offense, wit u have to say for Croatia and Portugal?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/190 "2016-06-25T20:59:53Z")

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I do hate low-scoring games, but a penalty shootout is always fine to see.

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**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/191 "2016-06-25T21:03:59Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> The Croatia-Portugal game is a lot of ZZzzzzz, thus far.
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> Missed the first two games today, were they that bad?

Out of 300 minutes of football… yeah, really only the Shaqueri goal. You did feel that with the other 4 teams it was mostly because the players couldn’t play much better, while in the current game it seems the players are just too scared of being eliminated.

The penalty shout was decent, especially compared to the how penalties that have been missed in the group stages.

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**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/192 "2016-06-25T21:31:32Z")

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While a snoozer of a game, Croatia deserved to win it. At least they tried at times. Current Portugal has to be the most overrated side in Eropean football. I hope Poland crushes them.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/193 "2016-06-25T21:33:55Z")

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Portugal is Cristiano Ronaldo+ 10 other men.

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**Author:** ![Shearer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Shearer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shearer)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/194 "2016-06-25T21:44:04Z")

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After watching this tournament I can understand why there are people that think football is rubbish.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/195 "2016-06-26T00:06:05Z")

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> [@Shearer](#):
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> After watching this tournament I can understand why there are people that think football is rubbish.

It only became rubbish when they expanded to 24 teams; and at this moment the defenses are too well organized and are smothering the offenses. There is still exciting footie being played in the Copa America.

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**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/196 "2016-06-26T13:06:12Z")

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1-0 Ireland. That should make this an interesting match.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/197 "2016-06-27T09:32:35Z")

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Gemany looking strong, Belgium have woken up.  
France played one good and one poor half  
Poland underwhelming  
Portugal and Wales tedious in the extreme

Can Italy v Spain produce a classic? (answer no, probably not)  
Can Iceland defend for 120 minutes or can England actually convert some of their multiple chances?

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/198 "2016-06-27T09:49:35Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> Can Italy v Spain produce a classic? (answer no, probably not)

I hope so, but I expect tough possession play by Spain against 11 defending Italians, maybe after Italy having scored early, but no spectacle. But I hope that Spain advances, Spain-Germany in the quarter final has the potential to become a real classic; it would be interesting to see which side can command the game with their similar philosophy.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/199 "2016-06-27T16:40:43Z")

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Spain - italy is a good game actually, there is a goal scored already so that has to help.

incidentally, from a distance the Spain strip makes it look like they’ve been shot in the shoulder.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/200 "2016-06-27T16:43:13Z")

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Had exactly the same thought, looks like a gory wound.

And of course I was wrong; though Italy scored kinda early, they surprisingly dominate the match so far.

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