# UEFA Euro 2016 thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 29, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004 "2016-05-29T16:33:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/281 "2016-07-02T21:58:19Z")
> [@Sampsiceramos](#): > > For anyone wondering what I meant when I said earlier that a lot of scored penalties this tournament should have been called back, the Bonucci equalizer against Germany was a perfect example. Clear misconduct on part of the taker, and it should have been called back. This is long going to be the “fannying about on the penalty run up” lesson for future generations: > **[Vine](https://vine.co/v/5zEDJauM2J2)** > > The entertainment network where videos and personalities get really big, really fast. Download Vine to watch videos, remixes and trends before they blow up. ---
**Author:** ![Sampsiceramos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Sampsiceramos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampsiceramos)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/282 "2016-07-02T22:00:21Z")
I don’t recall the last time I’ve seen six of the initial ten penalties wasted. I’m absolutely flabbergasted. On a related tangent, moments like these are why I’m perfectly OK with penalty shootouts as a decider. Anyone that wasn’t glued to the edge of their seat during that shootout is a cyborg, an alien, or possibly an alien cyborg. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/283 "2016-07-02T22:01:33Z")
I’m watching the replays of the shootout now…comically bad. This is supposed to be the highest level of football competition in the world! ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/284 "2016-07-02T22:05:11Z")
looks like junior high level penalty kicks ---
**Author:** ![wintertime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c68b51/32.png) [@wintertime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wintertime)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/285 "2016-07-02T22:15:32Z")
And once again, the Mannschaft manages to win despite of Löw. What they would do with Conte at the helm … ---
**Author:** ![Shearer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Shearer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shearer)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/286 "2016-07-02T22:25:15Z")
Italy bringing on Michael Flatley for the penalties wasn’t the best idea. ---
**Author:** ![Sampsiceramos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Sampsiceramos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampsiceramos)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/287 "2016-07-02T22:25:21Z")
To be fair, I think they could hire me to coach Germany and I’d be able to take them to the odd final. Löw is blessed with a true embarrassment of riches as far as player material goes. In truth, on talent alone, Italy should never have come so much as close to a shootout. I suspect it’ll take a long time before any agreement is reached on which of the Italian penalties was worse, though. Pelle’s and Zaza’s were both truly outstanding in the field of incompetence. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/288 "2016-07-02T22:25:58Z")
Did anyone else get the feeling that each teams first five takers and next 5 list got mixed up? I mean as soon as the 5 v 5 bit finished all of a sudden everybody was a better kick taker. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/289 "2016-07-02T22:32:12Z")
I think after the 5th set of kicks everyone thought, “OK, enough of this, let’s make the kicks.” Nothing like grim determination from seeing bad example. ---
**Author:** ![wintertime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c68b51/32.png) [@wintertime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wintertime)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/290 "2016-07-02T22:55:43Z")
It’s funny how the German team has become worse and worse in penalty shooting the more talent they bring to the game; the more playful, technically focused players seem to lack the killer instincts of their more rugged predecessors. The question is, can they field so much talent at one point that England is going to win a shootout against them? Dear Og, I hope not! ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/291 "2016-07-02T23:05:42Z")
it occurred to me since the goalie always goes one way or the other. Which means a shot to center is a pretty good idea but not many guys do that. ---
**Author:** ![Sampsiceramos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Sampsiceramos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampsiceramos)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/292 "2016-07-02T23:37:39Z")
The reason shots in the centre of the goal even work is that penalties are struck from so close that the goalkeeper must be proactive as opposed to reactive - most keepers dive a split-second before the ball is actually struck. Of course, all it takes is one goalkeeper that calls your bluff and you look like an absolute fucking moron - much like the goalkeeper comes across as something of a nonce if he anticipates a shot down the centre and is incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2016, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/293 "2016-07-02T23:54:26Z")
> [@wintertime](#): > > The question is, can they field so much talent at one point that England is going to win a shootout against them? No, because then England would lose in full time instead. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/294 "2016-07-03T02:16:29Z")
I’ve seen rules where the goalie can move before the guy kicks the ball. That was tried in some American minor leagues. It’s like the hockey shootout which has no rules on the goalie movement. ---
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/295 "2016-07-03T02:31:40Z")
FIFA laws allow lateral keeper movement but they can not move forward. Unless you are an American woman and it’s a WC final. Then you can get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/296 "2016-07-03T03:27:07Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > I’ve seen rules where the goalie can move before the guy kicks the ball. That was tried in some American minor leagues. It’s like the hockey shootout which has no rules on the goalie movement. The goalkeeper can move as much as he likes as long as he stays on the line. And \*\*Laggard \*\*is right, the American goalkeeper was \*far \*off her line against China in the 1999 women’s World Cup final. ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/297 "2016-07-03T04:01:12Z")
Right, but keepers get away with that all the time. Which game am I thinking of in this tournament, Croatia-Spain? The keeper was a good 6 feet off his line for the penalty there. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/298 "2016-07-03T07:38:53Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > Right, but keepers get away with that all the time. Which game am I thinking of in this tournament, Croatia-Spain? The keeper was a good 6 feet off his line for the penalty there. :eek: She was off her line for all the kicks in that [shoot out](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uos71JHj6nE). Should have been a caution and a retake. (The saved penalty is at 9:00 in the video) Incidentally, shows why women’s keepers are poor, their short stature means that get them either side of them and its a goal. ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/299 "2016-07-03T19:19:56Z")
Anything better than 1-3 here is a moral victory for Iceland. While a goal behind already, they are helped by the Dutch referee apparently being ok with “beefy” play. ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/300 "2016-07-03T19:22:22Z")
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