# UEFA Euro 2016 thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 29, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004 "2016-05-29T16:33:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/81 "2016-06-11T17:57:03Z")
Wales win against Slovakia, thanks to a supportive referee. ---
**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/82 "2016-06-11T18:18:27Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Wales win against Slovakia, thanks to a supportive referee. this crap already? ---
**Author:** ![Shearer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Shearer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shearer)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/83 "2016-06-11T18:56:26Z")
Skrtel isn’t Welsh ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/84 "2016-06-11T19:01:06Z")
> [@polar\_bear](#): > > So as a Dutchman times are kind of frustrating right now. Since failing to qualify we have shown we should have been able to qualify. We lost to a superior France and drew in Ireland, but otherwise we beat England, Wales, Poland and Austria… all away from home, and all of these countries are playing at euro 2016. > > Don’t get me wrong. We didn’t deserve to qualify and wouldn’t have gone that far anyway with our current team, but the upcoming month is going to be brutal… seeing all these “second tier” teams enjoying themselves. I think I’m going to support Albania or Romania, o some such… Friendlies are utterly meaningless. You didn’t make it. YOU are second tier. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/85 "2016-06-11T20:49:46Z")
England blows it. Ugh. Just awful. Russia stunk the whole game and one stupid screw up two minutes into stoppage time. ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/86 "2016-06-11T20:55:36Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > English fans have started causing trouble; after nearly 2 decades, at international tourneys, Helped by Russian ‘fans’ in black balaclavas and French ‘fans’ targeting England ‘fans’. I’m always appalled by stupid drunken violence by English fans, but they are not alone, and often not the provocateurs. Let’s have a balanced view. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/87 "2016-06-12T08:24:22Z")
> [@SanVito](#): > > Helped by Russian ‘fans’ in black balaclavas and French ‘fans’ targeting England ‘fans’. I’m always appalled by stupid drunken violence by English fans, but they are not alone, and **often not the provocateurs**. Let’s have a balanced view. Agreed with all except the highlighted. I still remember Euro 2000. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/88 "2016-06-12T18:26:55Z")
UEFA threatening to disqualify England and Russia because of the fighting. Right, they’re going to boot the 2018 World Cup host which is led by a mad dictator and England, one of the world’s most popular football teams. > **[UEFA threatens to disqualify Russia, England from EURO if violence persists -...](https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2016/06/12/uefa-threatens-to-disqualify-russia-england-from-euro-if-violence-persists/)** > > UEFA is taking a strong stand against fan violence, threatening to disqualify Russia and England from EURO 2016 if more clashes ensue. ---
**Author:** ![Sampsiceramos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Sampsiceramos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampsiceramos)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/89 "2016-06-12T18:30:41Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Agreed with all except the highlighted. I still remember Euro 2000. By all unbiased accounts I’ve seen, the England fans are largely blameless in this case. If anything, it’s the fault of Russian domestic efforts (i.e not catalogueing and confiscating the passports of known hooligans like many European nations do during major tournaments) and atrocious French planning. Anyone with a lick of sense knows that having England and Russia play each other in Marseille is like waving a blowtorch around in the vicinity of a powderkeg. The OM ultras are _very_ well-known for taking absolutely any opportunity to start shit, and Russian ultras have a reputation even in the hooligan community for not just being run-of-the-mill violent, but actively homicidal. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/90 "2016-06-12T18:37:45Z")
German and Ukranian fans are having it. German media reporting neo-Nazi goings on. > ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/91 "2016-06-12T19:36:44Z")
> [@Sampsiceramos](#): > > By all unbiased accounts I’ve seen, the England fans are largely blameless in this case. If anything, it’s the fault of Russian domestic efforts (i.e not catalogueing and confiscating the passports of known hooligans like many European nations do during major tournaments) and atrocious French planning. > l. English fans have spent the last few days making a nuisance of themselves; they are hardly innocent in this even if (as seems) the Russians started it in the stadium. The fault is with the security forces and politicians. Its a caution (admittedly the days events in Orlando might mask this) over spending all your attention resources against terrorism. The authorities have worried so much about terror, they have forgotten all the other criminals and trouble makers who are attracted to such events. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/92 "2016-06-13T20:36:32Z")
Well,Germany looked shaky in defence, Boetang was magnificent (Messi is across the Atlantic) and saved by my count, at least three goals. Gotze is not a false 9, he is an out and out forward, play him as one, either wide or up front (like with Villa), but he is not Cesc Fabregas type player, use Schurrle if you have to. Spain were clinical,but could not really finish much. Italy seem good againts Belgium. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/93 "2016-06-14T11:09:30Z")
Russia fined €150,000 and threatened with disqualification if there are further incidents. Has a team ever been disqualified in a major tournament such as Euro or World Cup? > **[Russia handed suspended Euro 2016 disqualification and lash out at England](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/14/russia-handed-suspended-euro-2016-disqualification-fined-150000-uefa?CMP=twt_gu)** > > Further incidents will see Russia disqualified from the tournament but their coach, Leonid Slutsky, slammed ‘unethical’ England fan behaviour while the striker Artem Dzyuba said ‘In every conflict there are two parts’ ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/94 "2016-06-15T19:35:41Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > English fans have spent the last few days making a nuisance of themselves; they are hardly innocent in this even if (as seems) the Russians started it in the stadium.( Around 2000 people are subject to banning orders, preventing them from travelling to France. Unfortunately that leaves a lot of English supporters who are out there to enjoy a few beers and a bit of banter exposed to proper firms from both Russia and France who are indiscriminate in who they attack. ---
**Author:** ![Cumbrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Cumbrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumbrian)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/95 "2016-06-15T20:10:17Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Russia fined €150,000 and threatened with disqualification if there are further incidents. Has a team ever been disqualified in a major tournament such as Euro or World Cup? > [Russia handed suspended Euro 2016 disqualification and lash out at England | Russia | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/14/russia-handed-suspended-euro-2016-disqualification-fined-150000-uefa?CMP=twt_gu) I don’t think it’s happened at international level (though someone might be able to say otherwise) but all English clubs were banned from European Club competition (so the European Cup as the Champions League was called then, the UEFA Cup - which turned into the Europa League, and the now defunct European Cup Winners’ Cup) after the Heysel Stadium Disaster for about 5 or 6 years in the late 80s. Liverpool were made to serve an additional year’s ban on top of this. So such punishments are not totally unheard of. ---
**Author:** ![Sampsiceramos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Sampsiceramos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampsiceramos)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/96 "2016-06-15T20:39:09Z")
Starting Kante and Matuidi while leaving Pogba out of the side is why I’m convinced Didier Deschamps is, in fact, an abject fucking moron. Until Payet took some initiative and started dropping back in build-up play, France was literally just moving the ball around in a U-shape between their back 6 - and after Payet started dropping back, it allowed the Albanians to just isolate Coman and Martial and deny them any space after receiving the ball. If you’re going to play with two types like Kante and Matuidi (who are both more or less allergic to adventurous passes or carrying the ball up the pitch), you have to start a player like Pogba that will drop back, receive the ball, and then move it up the pitch with his feet. That, or you start Cabaye and either play Griezmann behind the striker or move Matuidi further up the pitch. Their starting lineup simply had zero tactical cohesion. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2016, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/97 "2016-06-15T22:44:42Z")
> [@Sampsiceramos](#): > > Starting Kante and Matuidi while leaving Pogba out of the side is why I’m convinced Didier Deschamps is, in fact, an abject fucking moron. Until Payet took some initiative and started dropping back in build-up play, France was literally just moving the ball around in a U-shape between their back 6 - and after Payet started dropping back, it allowed the Albanians to just isolate Coman and Martial and deny them any space after receiving the ball. Pogba should have started instead of Martial. He recognized his mistake 20 minutes in to be fair. But, the biggest moron at the Euros is Roy Hodgson. He took off Rooney, Englands best player; started Raheem Sterling and did not start or even introduce Vardy when faced with a pair of tiring and old CB’s. Of course, he also thought it was a fine idea to use the lone striker for set pieces kicks. Why the hell did he bring 5 strikers, if he was going to play one up front? Wonder what genius he will show against Bale and Co tomorrow. Joe Hart in the No 10 role no doubt. ---
**Author:** ![mcgato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mcgato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcgato)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/98 "2016-06-16T12:31:40Z")
You forgot to mention Kane taking the corner kicks. In what universe does that make sense? Well, maybe if he appeared to be good at it. ---
**Author:** ![Busy\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Busy\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Busy_Scissors)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/99 "2016-06-16T14:23:29Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Wonder what genius he will show against Bale and Co tomorrow. Joe Hart in the No 10 role no doubt. Joe Hart playing a goal-keeping role would be a start, the coiffeured tit. Still, Uncle Roy has acted decisively and hooked Sterling off, with Vardy finding the onion bag in short order. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004/100 "2016-06-16T15:19:03Z")
England should probably only need a draw against Slovakia now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uefa-euro-2016-thread/756004.md?page=6)