# UFO's in Recent Navy Videos **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 16, 2022, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337 "2022-06-16T22:31:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/41 "2023-07-28T15:20:19Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > How seriously should we take the House hearing, in which former military personnel are claiming knowledge of the US gov’t possessing actual evidence of “non-human biologics” from UFO crash sites. Not serious at all. Chimps and Dogs are “non-human biologics” and have been used in flight tests. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/42 "2023-07-28T16:49:53Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > I would think that, if true, it would be much bigger news. See also this entire thread. > [@I'm not saying it's aliens, but ... it's aliens](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-saying-its-aliens-but-its-aliens/985168): > > Welp, this about wraps it up for the human race I guess. If the Guardian says it, it must be true: The US has been urged to disclose evidence of [UFOs](https://www.theguardian.com/world/ufos) after a whistleblower former intelligence official said the government has possession of “intact and partially intact” alien vehicles. The former intelligence official David Grusch, who led analysis of unexplained anomalous phenomena (UAP) within a US Department of Defense agency, has alleged that the US has craft of non-human origin. Informati… This is a stupid publicity hound hoping to cash in on the ignorance of the CT-theory besotted Right Wing public. His book is next and will sell millions of copies to folks who mostly can’t read. And now the truly-Wacky caucus of the Reactionary Wacko Traitor party’s congressional delegation has decided to join the fun for extra publicity and votes in Nov. Nothing more than that. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/43 "2023-07-28T16:55:20Z")
> [@Dorjan](#): > > Chimps and Dogs are “non-human biologics” and have been used in flight tests. The House hearing is a dog-and-pony show, so we should also consider the latter among the “non-human” invaders. Even worse, hybrid half-human biologics may have landed from Alpha Centauri and the military is covering it up. [![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/94/a0/1d/94a01d292a03733d0a2a87e647385548.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/94/a0/1d/94a01d292a03733d0a2a87e647385548.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/44 "2023-07-28T17:28:10Z")
I kinda understand the use the the word “biologics” in pharmacology. In fact, I get an infusion of a biologic drug every 7 weeks. I’m not sure what the word means in the headlines above. Can anyone explain? ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/45 "2023-07-28T17:31:26Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > How seriously should we take the House hearing, in which former military personnel are claiming knowledge of the US gov’t possessing actual evidence of “non-human biologics” from UFO crash sites. Agreed, not at all. They also report, “a former Air Force intelligence officer claims the U.S. government has operated a secret “multi-decade” reverse engineering program of recovered vessels.” People, even high-ranking people, claiming knowledge of, or belief in, extra-terrestrial UFO’s doesn’t make it true. Or any other far out claims. For example, The CIA has used remote viewers in the past. And the British government under Tony Blair and the Ministry of Defence, tried (seriously) to locate Osama Bin Laden using remote viewers. Sgt. Matt Patten, part of the Presidential detail has these qualifications: Highly qualified Security Professional with 20+ years of diversified experience in local and federal law enforcement. Developed and implemented strategies, policies and procedures in support of local, regional, national, and global efforts to protect personnel, property, facilities, and assets. Solid reputation working with international, federal, state and local government agencies and law enforcement on special projects and assignments. Absolute and unquestioned integrity, ethics, discretion and confidentiality. Superior problem-solving abilities and relentless in achieving organizational objectives. Able to travel to address immediate business needs. **Held National Level Clearance with Department of Homeland Security, Top Secret/SCI Level.** [Surely we can trust this guy, right?](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/04/us/swat-leader-qanon-patch.html) Well, he has stated and firmly believes that a a group of Satan-worshiping elites who run a child sex ring are trying to control our politics and media And anti-vaxxers etc, and the list goes on… ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/46 "2023-07-28T18:06:45Z")
> **[House Panel Didn’t Expect UFO Whistleblower To Just Dump Alien On Table Like...](https://www.theonion.com/house-panel-didn-t-expect-ufo-whistleblower-to-just-dum-1850683084)** > > WASHINGTON—Shocked by the former intelligence official’s sensational testimony, members of the House Oversight Committee told reporters Thursday they were not expecting UFO whistleblower David Grusch to just dump an alien on the table like that. “He... ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/47 "2023-07-28T18:11:04Z")
Let’s just say that Mike Flynn was once a high ranking intelligence official. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/48 "2023-07-28T18:21:26Z")
When I was a child in the 60s this kind of stuff sounded exciting. Mankind had barely traversed the atmosphere into space and the possibility of real alien contact seemed so real. Then I grew up. Bob Lazar came up with a really good story to bring a lot of this nonsense back to life. I give him credit for that on an entertainment level. These stories now are ridiculous, uninteresting, and only credible to the gullible, and flat out fools. But then again so are the other kinds of non-alien related idiocy mentioned here. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/49 "2023-07-28T18:24:27Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > I’m not sure what the word means in the headlines above. Can anyone explain? “Non-human biologics” is meant to suggest “Alien life forms” while leaving open the much less obvious and sexy possibility that they’re really talking about ordinary terrestrial species like dogs & chimps that had been lofted by ordinary terrestrial space programs. IOW > [@Grush](#): > > I wasn’t lying, I was just being clever. So you can’t charge me with fraud. Meanwhile, a million people bought my book. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/50 "2023-07-28T20:14:48Z")
The answer to the question, **Are We Alone?** Is probably Yes! Nobody likes that answer. Including me. If in the unlikely event that the human race lasts for several million more years, even until the sun expands and burns up the Earth, we still will not have found another intelligent, technological, space faring, race to talk to. That is the truth that no one is willing to accept. Space is really big, there is life probably almost everywhere conditions allow. That is not in dispute. But we will never find any indication of them, meet them, communicate with them, **ever.** I’m sure Joe Rogan will get to the bottom of this. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/51 "2023-07-28T22:04:04Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Because stealth in space is really, really easy. Just paint the thing black, and we’d probably never even notice it. Better yet, grey. But yeah. Look most of these UFOs are lights. Secret military craft or Alien star craft trying to make sure we dont know they are visiting- neither would be lit up. So, all those are reflections or drones or mundane aircraft or whatever. Mostly reflections. Note that rarely do those UFOs have multiple sightings, even those over major population centers. > [@gnoitall](#): > > nfrared telescopes might pick out a black-painted artificial object of sufficient size, Sure, but that’s not what all those UFO sightings are. And certainly tech can block those also. > [@dtilque](#): > > nd no I don’t believe they’ll have painted their ship black. There’s a very good reason all spacecraft have highly reflective surfaces and those will apply to any aliens too. But not stealth Air craft, and we dont care if our spacecraft our spotted, in fact we want them to. > [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > The answer to the question, **Are We Alone?** Is probably Yes! Probably NO, except that they are so damn far away, we will never see them. Maybe even a galaxy away. > [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > . But we will never find any indication of them, meet them, communicate with them, **ever.** _That_ is very possible. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/52 "2023-07-29T00:52:30Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > > [@dtilque](#): > > > > nd no I don’t believe they’ll have painted their ship black. There’s a very good reason all spacecraft have highly reflective surfaces and those will apply to any aliens too. > > But not stealth Air craft, and we dont care if our spacecraft our spotted, in fact we want them to. The reason spacecraft have reflective surfaces is to minimize heating from the sun. Nothing at all to do with visibility. If the UFOs are alien spacecraft, they’ll have the same issue of thermal management as we do and will likely solve it the same way. If they’re not spacecraft but just aircraft, then they won’t have the same issue, so they can be black or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![HoneyBadgerDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honeybadgerdc/32/1033_2.png) [@HoneyBadgerDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoneyBadgerDC)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/53 "2023-07-29T00:59:22Z")
I can’t even imagine anything from space coming here. I don’t know what it is they have but I bet it is from earth. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/54 "2023-07-29T11:43:23Z")
Thanks everyone. Kind of what I suspected, so wondered why the House took it seriously enough to spend time on. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2023, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/55 "2023-07-30T03:06:33Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > The reason spacecraft have reflective surfaces is to minimize heating from the sun. Nothing at all to do with visibility. Yeah sure. But the alien UFO could come from a mothership, in fact that is really the only practical. Also, once you have FTL travel, changing colors is a snap. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/56 "2023-07-30T03:14:58Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > so wondered why the House took it seriously enough to spend time on. They have already established that idiots can be riled up to vote. They are just expanding their base. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2023, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/57 "2023-07-31T12:21:47Z")
I hate them for this. This is a ridiculous thing to waste time and money on. There almost assuredly are no aliens to be found. Congress is desperate to find something to do since they aren’t allowed to actually pass bills to help Americans or do anything to save our democracy. I guess Mark Zuckerberg was busy so they had to schedule these clowns. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/58 "2023-07-31T16:16:48Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > so wondered why the House took it seriously enough to spend time on. To distract from everything they are doing that they shouldn’t, or aren’t doing that they should. See: Hunter Biden’s dicpix. As for the lights on spaceships, I figured that the lights are part of the “reactionless drive” that they use, However it works, it emits visible light. I mean, I don’t believe alien craft exist, but _if they did_, that could explain the lights. Especially if the aliens are blind in the spectrum we see. Like a deaf guy riding a loud Harley, they have no idea how obnoxious and visible they are. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/59 "2023-07-31T18:48:41Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > They have already established that idiots can be riled up to vote. They are just expanding their base. I think this is a result of them already expanding their base. The GOP has co-opted huge chunk of the Conspiracy Theory crowd, and those people are now a core element of their support. So the party has to pander to them by acting like they think the CTs have some merit, even as they know this is BS. These sorts of “hearings” are the inevitable result of CT-ization of politics. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337/60 "2023-07-31T20:25:57Z")
But, but, I talked to someone who said they knew someone who had seen something. Then they showed me pictures of a bug splat or other anomaly from a military targeting computer. It moved so fast because it wasn’t really there. And since all these guys were former military pilots it must be true. Hero worship counts more than evidence. I could tell you more but The Government is already killing people who speak up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-in-recent-navy-videos/966337.md?page=4)