# UFOs off the Cleveland shore

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 2, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976 "2022-08-02T15:49:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/1 "2022-08-02T15:49:17Z")

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This Channel 5 story about a waterspout in Lake Erie makes no mention of the 4 large flying saucers in the photos. Click on the photos, not the video. Some kind of reflections?

> **[VIDEO: Waterspout spotted on Lake Erie just offshore from Cleveland Tuesday...](https://www.news5cleveland.com/weather/weather-news/waterspout-spotted-miles-off-lake-erie-coast-from-cleveland-tuesday-morning)**
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> There was a waterspout on the Lake Erie shoreline Tuesday morning, according to Power of 5 Meteorologist Trent Magill and a News 5 viewer who captured photos.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/2 "2022-08-02T15:54:51Z")

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The aliens are mad about Deshaun Watson?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/3 "2022-08-02T15:57:57Z")

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> [@mixdenny](#):
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> Click on the photos, not the video. Some kind of reflections?

In the video, you can also see very faint stripes that are obviously reflections of the ceiling or walls. As are the “UFOs”

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/4 "2022-08-02T16:37:13Z")

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I think I can even make out doors down that hallway. Definitely ceiling lights reflected in the window.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/5 "2022-08-02T16:39:30Z")

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Yep, reflections.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/6 "2022-08-02T16:42:58Z")

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Yep. That’s reflection of can lights/recessed lights in the apartment. It’s immediately obvious to me even from the thumbnail, but I’m a photographer, so I look out for this stuff all the time. (ETA: Looking closely at the photos in the link, you can even see the whole room in the clouds from the reflection – looks like there’s also a window reflected way back.)

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/7 "2022-08-02T16:43:06Z")

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If they had cleaned those up from the shot, by definition the video would have been tampered with.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/8 "2022-08-02T16:44:41Z")

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In the Midwest even flying saucers are square.

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**Author:** ![MikeS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MikeS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeS)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/9 "2022-08-03T11:38:00Z")

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Playing around with the 3D view in Google Maps, it looks like the picture was taken from a relatively high floor of [One Cleveland Center,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Cleveland_Center) which has lots of [wide windows](https://homepages.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/ohio/cleveland/stubbins/stubbins.html) whose frames wouldn’t show up in a picture taken from inside. Most likely some accountant happened to be looking out the window at the right time and snapped the pic without thinking about the reflections.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/10 "2022-08-03T14:35:19Z")

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Hah, the aliens are clever like that. 👽  
Hiding in plain sight posing as reflections.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/11 "2022-08-03T14:49:47Z")

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I’ve seen a few similar ones.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/MzmJgwg.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/MzmJgwg.jpeg)

[![](https://external-preview.redd.it/V4nuisY6KE5-p7uT_d5VYN4wdaKa5mRyNgAfLXq5G6w.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=cc9427012769fb2d6bd02f4bf356822704c01648) ](https://external-preview.redd.it/V4nuisY6KE5-p7uT_d5VYN4wdaKa5mRyNgAfLXq5G6w.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=cc9427012769fb2d6bd02f4bf356822704c01648)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/12 "2022-08-03T15:01:08Z")

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Either those are actual aliens in their ship or you have an ant problem.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/13 "2022-08-03T15:04:02Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> aliens are clever

Not that clever.

C’mon, Cleveland?

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/14 "2022-08-03T15:13:53Z")

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I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/15 "2022-08-03T22:28:03Z")

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You say that, but have you ever toiled in an underground sugar cave?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/16 "2022-08-03T22:32:44Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> You say that, but have you ever toiled in an underground sugar cave? -

I hear it’s a pretty sweet job.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/17 "2022-08-03T22:54:26Z")

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"You mean your people are going to invade… _Cleveland?!"_  
–Wainwright, to Nog, _Star Trek: Deep Space Nine_ episode “Little Green Men”

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**Author:** ![Isilder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@Isilder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isilder)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/18 "2022-08-04T01:24:27Z")

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Did anyone else notice its not a waterspout, its a tornado that didnt touch down.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/19 "2022-08-04T01:51:18Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Either those are actual aliens in their ship or you have an ant problem.

[Or both?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5Z5JIl7u68)

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**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ufos-off-the-cleveland-shore/968976/20 "2022-08-04T17:15:03Z")

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> [@Isilder](#):
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> Did anyone else notice its not a waterspout, its a tornado that didnt touch down.

I thought the position, over water or land, was the difference? Waterspouts are not unusual in Lake Erie. I recall a line of 5 of them traveling east. The highway patrol was following them along to warn people if they turned towards land.

I was once in downtown Cleveland and turned south on E 9th St, a main thoroughfare that has a clear view of the lake at the end. A giant waterspout/tornado filled my rear view mirror! Talk about panic.

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