# Ugh.  A friend is assuming I will lie for him.

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 30, 2011, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-a-friend-is-assuming-i-will-lie-for-him/594630 "2011-08-30T14:52:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![eclectic\_wench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac91a4/32.png) [@eclectic\_wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eclectic_wench)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-a-friend-is-assuming-i-will-lie-for-him/594630/61 "2011-08-31T15:30:46Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Wow. Your friend was there for you, yet here you are debating whether or not you should be there for him. And not even because it would inconvenience you, but because of some nebulous fucking “Moral” dilemma.

I actually think the other way around. Refusing to help out a friend because it would inconvenience you? Scummy. Refusing to help out a friend because it’s against your moral principles? Not scummy.

It’d depend on the specific friend and the specific principle involved, though. I have friends for whom I’d do this one in a heartbeat, but I wouldn’t cover for them having affairs. This is, IMO, in a completely different league. If you’re in a position to know that this is a sound, hardworking, reliable, intelligent guy, then saying so to a prospective employer - even if you lie about how you know - is not the same as saying, ‘Oh, hi, Joe! Yes, of course Jane and I spent the weekend hanging out and painting our toenails. She’s just, um, having a shower, I’ll get her to call you back…’

But yeah, I’d be pissed off with him for not asking me first.

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