# Ugh, Embarrassed this Douche is on "My side" (Chik-fil-a) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 3, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329 "2012-08-03T18:15:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/201 "2012-08-06T14:17:49Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > We will certainly give your opinion on the matter all the serious consideration it is due. \*Ah! \* There. Done. _shrugs_ Bigots gonna’ bigot. (Channeling my inner liberal there.) On a more serious note, though, did you not see how huge the turnout for “CFA Appreciation Day” was and how paltry the turnout for the alleged boycott was? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/202 "2012-08-06T14:20:55Z")
Wow, that is serious. See how my brow just wrinkled? ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/203 "2012-08-06T14:27:43Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Wow, that is serious. See how my brow just wrinkled? I’d say “yes”, but that’d just be plain weird considering it’s the internet and all. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/204 "2012-08-06T14:34:54Z")
I use to work at a store, and I had people bitch at me for things I had nothing to do with. This guy’s a tool, yes. The person at the window handled it well, yes. I don’t know… maybe it’s a big deal because he recorded it, but shit like this happens all the time. The girl was just doing her job. I would have acted the same way if I were in her shoes. I’m sure most people would. That’s how they are trained to act. Sure, this guy’s an idiot that deserved what he got. He did apologize, and he seemed to really regret what he did. I think he just made a mistake. Filming it was disastrous. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/205 "2012-08-06T15:44:48Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > I don’t know… maybe it’s a big deal because he recorded it, but shit like this happens all the time. That’s the underlying theme of this whole thing. CFA and tons of other companies have been giving to anti-gay groups. Some folks knew and cared, some folks knew and didn’t care, some folks didn’t know and/or cared. It’s been a low-key thing for years. Then suddenly Cathy wakes up, spouts some well-publicized bullshit, and everyone’s up in arms, because a lot of people feel that they just can’t ignore it any more. In the same vein, there have always been insane asshole customers. [NotAlwaysRight](http://www.notalwaysright.com) is filled with stories which, if even a fraction of them are true, are simply mind-boggling. But once you record one of those asshole customers and put it on Youtube, the people responsible for him feel that action has to be taken; they can’t just ignore it. In other words, it’s another consequence of our increasingly media-driven and video-recorded society. Things we don’t know about can be ignored, but in general there’s a good deal fewer things we don’t know about than in the past. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/206 "2012-08-06T15:50:12Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Was that directed to **brazil84**? It was, I had quoted his post above. If you’re referring to me calling out **Nzinga’s** name, it was a toung 'n cheek reference to a little squabble we had up thread. NBD. Anyhow, see how b84 will now take the most tangential aspect of an issue, inflate to the size of Everest, fill it with ambiguous minutia, until he will ultimately accuse you of weaseling and building up brazil84 shaped strawmen. He’ll then put you on his “ignore” list due to a set of [rules of internet debate of his own invention](http://brazil84.wordpress.com/my-rules-of-debate/) of which only he sticks to, and doesn’t apply to himself. According to these rules, he should be first on his own list. Seriously, [the guy’s eff’d in the head.](http://www.google.com/search?q=brazil84+debate+rules&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari) All have been now adequately warned by VT and myself. Here there be dragons. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/207 "2012-08-06T16:23:52Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > On a more serious note, though, did you not see how huge the turnout for “CFA Appreciation Day” was and how paltry the turnout for the alleged boycott was? You have to show up for a boycott? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/208 "2012-08-06T16:31:12Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > You have to show up for a boycott? Of course. How else are you going to get credit? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/209 "2012-08-06T17:18:48Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Sorry **mhendo** , but I \*did \*warn you… Yes. Yes you did. I’m done with him. Maybe if i’m lucky, he’ll put me on his banned debaters list. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/210 "2012-08-06T17:22:52Z")
Apparently, I’m not. Must be my charm. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/211 "2012-08-06T17:30:46Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Of course. How else are you going to get credit? I got my card punched. (Yes, that a euphemism. No, I’m not going to tell you what for.) ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/212 "2012-08-06T18:06:00Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Of course. How else are you going to get credit? Or the free water. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/213 "2012-08-06T20:45:26Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Apparently, I’m not. Must be my charm. Lucky! ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/214 "2012-08-07T00:27:13Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > _shrugs_ > > Bigots gonna’ bigot. > > (Channeling my inner liberal there.) > > On a more serious note, though, did you not see how huge the turnout for “CFA Appreciation Day” was and how paltry the turnout for the alleged boycott was? Perhaps you mean the protest, the “Kiss-In,” which I think is fair to say fizzled. I don’t think one can fairly measure a boycott by counting the people that show up. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/215 "2012-08-07T01:45:02Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > You have to show up for a boycott? No, the person you’re punishing should _know_ what they did wrong! Heh, sorry, that’s a _girl_cott. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/216 "2012-08-07T11:19:44Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Yes. Ok, then it seems there’s more at issue than a simple exchange of money for services. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/217 "2012-08-07T11:23:52Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Yes. Yes you did. I’m done with him. > > Maybe if i’m lucky, he’ll put me on his banned debaters list. If you continue to weasel, strawman and evade reasonable questions about your position, then I surely will. Perhaps it gives you pleasure to pretend to disagree with me, but I have no interest in engaging with people who insist on using these types of tactics. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/218 "2012-08-07T11:29:26Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Ok, then it seems there’s more at issue than a simple exchange of money for services. Something I have not denied, and never would have. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/219 "2012-08-07T11:51:01Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Something I have not denied, and never would have. My apologies, I must have misunderstood your position. Please answer my questions from Post #149: 1. Under what circumstances does an employee of an evil corporation or institution deserve criticism for voluntarily serving as an employee of an evil corporation or institution? Please tell me your general principle as best you can. Or are you saying that the question is impossible to answer? 1. Ok, so if a person is knowingly working for an evil corporation and has some degree of choice about it, then they deserve criticism? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/220 "2012-08-07T13:59:54Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > My apologies, I must have misunderstood your position. > > Please answer my questions from Post #149: > > 1. Under what circumstances does an employee of an evil corporation or institution deserve criticism for voluntarily serving as an employee of an evil corporation or institution? > > Please tell me your general principle as best you can. Or are you saying that the question is impossible to answer? > > 1. Ok, so if a person is knowingly working for an evil corporation and has some degree of choice about it, then they deserve criticism? Adam, Adam Smith? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329.md?page=12)