# Ugh, Embarrassed this Douche is on "My side" (Chik-fil-a) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 3, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329 "2012-08-03T18:15:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/221 "2012-08-07T14:16:26Z")
It’s like seeing person after person blunder into the same quicksand. First they’re like “huh, this was a bad idea,” and they try to extricate themselves, but the more they struggle the deeper they sink. After a while they realize there’s no way out, and they wonder how the hell they even got there in the first place. Not even sand, really. More like quickshit. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/222 "2012-08-07T14:34:21Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > I use to work at a store, and I had people bitch at me for things I had nothing to do with. This guy’s a tool, yes. The person at the window handled it well, yes. I don’t know… maybe it’s a big deal because he recorded it, but shit like this happens all the time. The girl was just doing her job. I would have acted the same way if I were in her shoes. I’m sure most people would. That’s how they are trained to act. > > Sure, this guy’s an idiot that deserved what he got. He did apologize, and he seemed to really regret what he did. I think he just made a mistake. Filming it was disastrous. The internet is the worst thing to happen to stupid people. The second worse thing was camcorders. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/223 "2012-08-07T14:41:48Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > The internet is the worst thing to happen to stupid people. The second worse thing was camcorders. That’s fucking awesome. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/224 "2012-08-07T15:27:29Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > I’m boycotting cookies. I hear they recently came out in favour of Voter ID. Keebler or Nabisco? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/225 "2012-08-07T19:03:31Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Keebler or Nabisco? Girlscouts. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/226 "2012-08-08T01:14:26Z")
So long as they are made from free-range Girl Scouts… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/227 "2012-08-08T01:19:48Z")
An interesting wrinkle has developed. From _NewsMax_ (yes, that _NewsMax_, but I fumigated myself afterwards…) [http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/romney-chickfila-catholic-league/2012/08/06/id/447703](http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/romney-chickfila-catholic-league/2012/08/06/id/447703) > [@](#): > > The Romney campaign’s decision to duck the Chick-fil-A controversy over gay-marriage appears to have reopened old wounds with social conservatives, who were never fully sold that the former Massachusetts governor would represent their concerns in the marbled halls of Washington. > > “This is the most disheartened that certainly I’ve felt looking at this entire race,” said Catholic League president Bill Donohue. He told Newsmax in an exclusive interview that social conservatives will now have to decide whether to sit out the race… Laugh? I thought I’d surely die. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/228 "2012-08-08T01:29:43Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > 1. Under what circumstances does an employee of an evil corporation or institution deserve criticism for voluntarily serving as an employee of an evil corporation or institution? > > 2. Ok, so if a person is knowingly working for an evil corporation and has some degree of choice about it, then they deserve criticism? I work for a company with \> 100,000 employees. I’m quite certain that there are a fair few people who believe them to be evil. But as they only have me strangling kittens with the severed penises of orphans on alternate thursdays and they pay quite well, I think I can live with it. OTOH, it’s the alternate Tuesdays one month later when we have to force feed the now rotting kitten/penis combinations to battered warcrime rape victims that really bothers me. I probably deserve some criticism for that. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/229 "2012-08-08T01:40:22Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Keebler or Nabisco? Depends – does Ernie pay those elves over time? ---
**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/230 "2012-08-08T05:20:50Z")
I’m a little late to the party here but I wanted to get through this whole thread before I responded because I thought I must be missing where this is a big deal. Yeah, the guy was a smug jerk and especially for youtubing it; yeah the employee handled it as well as could be expected, but still nothing amazing…but so what? When I first heard about this and hadn’t seen the video yet I was expecting it to be about a million times worse. If I’d seen it and didn’t know about the hoopla I would have just rolled my eyes and maybe reminisced a little about how much working in fast food sucks. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/231 "2012-08-08T09:33:38Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Adam, Adam Smith? Lol, no. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/232 "2012-08-08T13:59:30Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Laugh? I thought I’d surely die. In fairness, Bill Donohue only has three modes: disheartened, astonished, and outraged— so if he’s only disheartened and astonished, then Mitt’s probably doing okay. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/233 "2012-08-10T01:19:23Z")
As I’ve said before, I don’t have a problem with this. Chick-Fil-A employees are not innocent–they are working for a bigoted organization. Plus, based on past practices, it’s quite likely that, if you aren’t a good enough Christian, you won’t be hired. And the owner has made it clear that hating gay people is on the side of being a Christian. Did he go too far?, Yes. But is he this horrible person everyone makes him out to be, not hardly. The basic idea of ordering water and taking up their time, while reporting his message, is sound. It honestly flabbergasts me that so many people are so upset about this, especially here in the Pit, where 99% of the people here say worse things than this guy does all the time. You’d think this was the Sunshine and Rainbows forum by the responses here. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/234 "2012-08-10T01:35:53Z")
Look, this is America. Our national culture is moralistic and self-righteous like that. It’s not enough to be right and know you’re right; you have to be a dick to everybody who doesn’t think like you. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/235 "2012-08-10T01:36:53Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > As I’ve said before, I don’t have a problem with this. Chick-Fil-A employees are not innocent–they are working for a bigoted organization. . . . Simply put, that is stupid. I doubt very few employees would show up for work there if they were told there would be no more paychecks. They aren’t working there to fill some corporate agenda, they are working there because they need the damn paycheck. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/236 "2012-08-10T02:00:50Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Simply put, that is stupid. I doubt very few employees would show up for work there if they were told there would be no more paychecks. They aren’t working there to fill some corporate agenda, they are working there because they need the damn paycheck. “They’re doing immoral things, but for MONEY, so it’s okay.” This would be a good time to remind you that the function of the cog in the Chick Fil A machine is to take in money supporting not just marriage discrimination (which is bad enough in itself and a sign of how thoroughly Christian immorality dominates our society that it’s considered a “political issue” to disagree on) but the actual murder of gay people for being gay. CFA supports organizations which, literally, are working to engineer a gay Holocaust ( [http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/chick-fil-a-profits-are-supporting-ugandas-kill-the-gays-bill/politics/2012/08/01/45430](http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/chick-fil-a-profits-are-supporting-ugandas-kill-the-gays-bill/politics/2012/08/01/45430) ). How do you justify working for this without blanketly accepting anything that provides you a financial benefit? What is the difference, morally, between working for Chick Fil A and working as a contract killer? ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/237 "2012-08-10T03:09:00Z")
I hate to be the guy that defends the Family Research Council, but, the Uganda thing is widely misreported. The FRC specifically objected only to the phrase in the resolution which says that Homosexuality is an internationally recognized civil right. The explicitly reject the view that anyone ought to kill anyone for being homosexual. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/238 "2012-08-10T03:12:39Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > I hate to be the guy that defends the Family Research Council, but, the Uganda thing is widely misreported. The FRC specifically objected only to the phrase in the resolution which says that Homosexuality is an internationally recognized civil right. The explicitly reject the view that anyone ought to kill anyone for being homosexual. When can we meet to sign the closing papers on this bridge I have? ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/239 "2012-08-10T03:19:28Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > When can we meet to sign the closing papers on this bridge I have? That joke does not apply to what I said. Their advocating against the Uganda resolution is not evidence that they support the execution of homosexuals. To insist that it is would be to do the same dishonest thing politicians are always doing when they attach irrelevant and unacceptable riders to otherwise awesome bills–then claim their opponents don’t support the awesome part when they reject it because of the unacceptable part. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/240 "2012-08-10T03:23:21Z")
They didn’t lobby to remove the part of the resolution that labeled homosexuality a right, they lobbied to blanketly vote against the resolution condemning the murder of homosexuals. Their actions do not support their claims and why you would ever give them such an extraordinary benefit of the doubt is beyond me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329.md?page=13)