# Ugh, Embarrassed this Douche is on "My side" (Chik-fil-a)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 3, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329 "2012-08-03T18:15:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/241 "2012-08-10T03:43:20Z")

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> [@Condescending\_Robot](#):
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> “They’re doing immoral things, but for MONEY, so it’s okay.”

What the fuck is immoral about working for a living? They don’t set corporate policy. They trade time for money. They trade money for living necessities. Gawd, how many generations of inbreeding does it take to have logic as screwed up as yours is?

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/242 "2012-08-10T03:44:22Z")

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> [@Condescending\_Robot](#):
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> They didn’t lobby to remove the part of the resolution that labeled homosexuality a right, they lobbied to blanketly vote against the resolution condemning the murder of homosexuals. Their actions do not support their claims and why you would ever give them such an extraordinary benefit of the doubt is beyond me.

Do you have a cite for that? I’m not trying to get in your face, but my understanding is the same as Frylocks.

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/243 "2012-08-10T03:52:53Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> What the fuck is immoral about working for a living? They don’t set corporate policy. They trade time for money. They trade money for living necessities. Gawd, how many generations of inbreeding does it take to have logic as screwed up as yours is?

So, working as a secretary for the KKK would be alright with you?

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/244 "2012-08-10T03:53:56Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> Do you have a cite for that? I’m not trying to get in your face, but my understanding is the same as Frylocks.

I put a citation in my original post on the topic. The link states:

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> the Family Research Council, a certified anti-gay hate group run by Tony Perkins, spent $25,000 lobbying Congress to NOT condemn Uganda’s “Kill The Gays” bill.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/245 "2012-08-10T04:08:31Z")

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We’re talking about working for CFA, not KKK. The problem is that you’re consumed by hate, and, like Adam Smith, you are showering that hate on innocent people. If you have a problem with CFA, it’s with the management, not the restaurant employees.

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/246 "2012-08-10T04:19:22Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> We’re talking about working for CFA, not KKK. The problem is that you’re consumed by hate, and, like Adam Smith, you are showering that hate on innocent people. If you have a problem with CFA, it’s with the management, not the restaurant employees.

So working for one group that uses its resources to destroy minorities is unacceptable, but for another is noble. Why?

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/247 "2012-08-10T04:23:38Z")

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> [@Condescending\_Robot](#):
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> I put a citation in my original post on the topic. The link states:

That’s not a cite. That’s something a journalist wrote with no supporting evidence. You said their actions spoke louder than words, but I haven’t seen any evidence of said actions.

Upon review, I’m not even sure if the author of that article is a journalist.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/248 "2012-08-10T04:30:00Z")

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What the fuck does the hourly employee have to do with how CFA uses it’s resources? It’s asinine to expect someone to quit gainful, legal employment because the company president spends _his_ money in a way you disagree with.

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/249 "2012-08-10T04:32:51Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> What the fuck does the hourly employee have to do with how CFA uses it’s resources? It’s asinine to expect someone to quit gainful, legal employment because the company president spends _his_ money in a way you disagree with.

The fucking corporation donated its money, not the CEO personally, which is the whole motherfucking reason this is an issue now, you lying sack of shit.

I’m guessing you don’t really have much of a problem with the “kill the gays” bill, either.

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/250 "2012-08-10T04:33:53Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> That’s not a cite. That’s something a journalist wrote with no supporting evidence. You said their actions spoke louder than words, but I haven’t seen any evidence of said actions.
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> Upon review, I’m not even sure if the author of that article is a journalist.

Screenshots of the federally submitted lobbying report are in the article, you dumbfuck.

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/251 "2012-08-10T04:35:11Z")

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So, once again, people who “just don’t want to see the poor cashiers yelled at” and “don’t want to politicize chicken” are quickly revealed as being willing to defend the Family Research Council, lie about the exact issue that sparked the entire situation, and basically go to bat for homophobes up to and including people who want to exterminate gays as a class.

Tell me again how extreme and unreasonable some guy who used strong language in a restaurant is?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/252 "2012-08-10T04:44:02Z")

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> [@Condescending\_Robot](#):
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> The fucking corporation donated its money, not the CEO personally, which is the whole motherfucking reason this is an issue now, you lying sack of shit.
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> I’m guessing you don’t really have much of a problem with the “kill the gays” bill, either.

Bingo. You got it. The corporation did it!!! Now, it’s just a small step to understanding that the employees of that corporation are guilty of nothing but working for a living. Rein in your hate and get your head out of your ass and this may still work out.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/253 "2012-08-10T04:44:10Z")

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> [@Condescending\_Robot](#):
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> Screenshots of the federally submitted lobbying report are in the article, you dumbfuck.

i cant see what the document says, or even what the document is, since I’m out of town and on my iPhone. The resolution is terrible.

I politely asked you for a cite, since I didn’t see anything in the article other than the author’s assertion. Your response to my request was to copy and paste the same assertion, while failing to mention any relevant wording contained within the scanned document. When asked to clarify, you called me a dumbfuck.

Maybe you could try again, acting like a halfway decent person this time.

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/254 "2012-08-10T04:47:31Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> Maybe you could try again, acting like a halfway decent person this time.

I’ll go out and get a job converting chicken sandwiches into dead gay people so that I meet with your moral approval.

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/255 "2012-08-10T04:51:41Z")

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> [@Condescending\_Robot](#):
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> They didn’t lobby to remove the part of the resolution that labeled homosexuality a right, they lobbied to blanketly vote against the resolution condemning the murder of homosexuals. Their actions do not support their claims and why you would ever give them such an extraordinary benefit of the doubt is beyond me.

There’s no benefit of the doubt being given here. There’s nothing to doubt.

You’re right–they lobbied to reject the resolution. I didn’t say otherwise. They also stated their _reasons_ for rejecting it. Their stated reason is, the resolution calls homosexuality a right. That is what they don’t like about the resolution. So, they said, it should be rejected. From this we have no reason to conclude they are for the execution of homosexuals. If there were a resolution extending the right to marry to homosexual couples, and also claiming that everyone has a right to peanut butter sandwiches every day, and if you were to reject that resolution, should I then conclude you are anti-SSM?

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/256 "2012-08-10T04:52:08Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> We’re talking about working for CFA, not KKK. The problem is that you’re consumed by hate, and, like Adam Smith, you are showering that hate on innocent people. If you have a problem with CFA, it’s with the management, not the restaurant employees.

Well said.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/257 "2012-08-10T04:52:59Z")

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n/m getting nowhere.

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/258 "2012-08-10T04:53:47Z")

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> [@Condescending\_Robot](#):
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> I’ll go out and get a job converting chicken sandwiches into dead gay people so that I meet with your moral approval.

You’re the worst kind of moron.

I got into a discussion about this with someone on a board I moderate. I claimed the same thing you did, and the other person told me I was lying & pointed me to an article written by a FRC spokesperson that said what Frylock did earlier. If you have some kind of citation that shows the FRC rep is lying, I would love to lob it back at the guy on the other board. I am firmly against Chick-fil-A, very much for gay marriage, and have argued that side on this board numerous times.

So, I’m asking you for the cite again for the 4th time. Just tell me what the doc is and what it says, and you can go back to frothing at the mouth.

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/259 "2012-08-10T05:01:25Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> n/m getting nowhere.

On the one hand, they want to kill me.  
On the other hand, I don’t like that.

Since we both commit the apparently cardinal sin of “hate” by not liking something (they don’t like my continued breathing, I don’t like their attempts to murder me) we’re morally equal and the truth is in the middle.

Great logic from whichever dumbass group (Christians, the sort of liberal “allies” who are all for gay rights unless it requires ever doing anything or opposing anyone, concern trolls) you represent.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/260 "2012-08-10T05:07:46Z")

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Please show me where CFA has, in any way, by whatever means, attempted to murder you.

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