# Ugh, Embarrassed this Douche is on "My side" (Chik-fil-a) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 3, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329 "2012-08-03T18:15:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/41 "2012-08-03T22:12:05Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > It’s a salutary lesson for anyone who is inclined to make a dick of themselves on the internet. Oh gawd 90 percent of the SDMBers here are soooo fucked 🙂 Though I do agree the price he paid for being a dick does seem a bit much. Then again, what a dick he was…to perhaps the most helpless class in America…the minimum wage worker. Heck, homeless people have it easier as they can just stab you, rob you, beat you up, or tell you to fuck off if you piss them off. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/42 "2012-08-03T22:16:30Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > And yet on this board belittling religious people and people on the right is practically celebrated. This girl was doing her job, not advocating some side of the issue, that’s why he’s a douchebag. If someone is espousing a ridiculous position than yes they deserve ridicule. If someone is giving you a free water you ordered, then no, fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/43 "2012-08-03T22:26:10Z")
Attention all SDMBers. I hereby offer you free virtual internet water with any “controversial” position I take here on this message board. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/44 "2012-08-03T22:32:56Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Oh gawd 90 percent of the SDMBers here are soooo fucked 🙂 > > Though I do agree the price he paid for being a dick does seem a bit much. Then again, what a dick he was…to perhaps the most helpless class in America…the minimum wage worker. Heck, homeless people have it easier as they can just stab you, rob you, beat you up, or tell you to fuck off if you piss them off. Don’t feel too bad for the young lady. She cute and she handled the ambush really well. Because of that, we haven’t seen the end of her. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/45 "2012-08-03T22:33:14Z")
Was he an asshole? Full of himself? Oh yeah. Did he deserve the fate that he’s now contending with (including but not limited to: being fired from a presumably good job, enduring threats to his life, bringing turmoil to his kids’ and wife’s lives, . . . )? No. I actually feel kinda sorry for him. I mean, in his own bumptious way, he seems to have been trying to do a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/46 "2012-08-03T22:41:30Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > I actually feel kinda sorry for him. I mean, in his own bumptious way, he seems to have been trying to do a good thing. Nah, he was just joining the pile-on, to borrow some internet message board vernacular. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/47 "2012-08-03T22:47:36Z")
The correct punishment for being a public asshole is scorn and derision. Not firing, not persecution of any sort, simply pointing and laughing ought to do nicely. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/48 "2012-08-03T22:48:53Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > And yet on this board belittling religious people and people on the right is practically celebrated. You are aware, I trust, that if you play the “liberal hypocrisy!” card, you have to send **Bricker** a dollar. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/49 "2012-08-03T22:50:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > The correct punishment for being a public asshole is scorn and derision. Not firing, not persecution of any sort, simply pointing and laughing ought to do nicely. It could be firing if you’re in a high enough position in a company and you could possibly fuck up public relations. That goes with the territory of making the big bucks. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/50 "2012-08-03T23:00:45Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > You are aware, I trust, that if you play the “liberal hypocrisy!” card, you have to send **Bricker** a dollar. And you’ll receive a free water in return. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/51 "2012-08-03T23:14:42Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > I mean, in his own bumptious way, he seems to have been trying to do a good thing. You know, I’m just not seeing that. Maybe if he was talking to the CEO, or maybe the Head of Public Relations…or maybe even an investor…but the cashier? Anyway. It’s one thing to be a complete douche bag. I’ve done that. It’s another to film yourself doing it and putting it on youtube. After it went viral, the company\* had\* to get rid of him. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/52 "2012-08-03T23:22:35Z")
Okay…I see what’s going on now…CFO of a medical device company…Chik Fil A…fast food…bad health…pissing off of medical device customers…all makes sense now… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/53 "2012-08-04T00:24:45Z")
That’s medical devices! You perv. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/54 "2012-08-04T02:05:29Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > This girl was doing her job, not advocating some side of the issue, that’s why he’s a douchebag. If someone is espousing a ridiculous position than yes they deserve ridicule. If someone is giving you a free water you ordered, then no, fuck off. I agree with you, but if CFA is some evil corporation, why are their agents given quarter? Would you be nice to the low level member of the Ku Klux Klan when he was painting your house? I understand there is all kinds of straw in that, but if a person agrees with the boycott of CFA, isn’t that person potentially costing this girl her job? I would rather be chewed out than fired. Again, I understand the distinction, but in other instances we don’t accept “I’m just doing my job” as an excuse. The response is, “You have a shitty job.” And other actions like a boycott would affect this girl much more. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/55 "2012-08-04T04:31:40Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > And other actions like a boycott would affect this girl much more. I wonder how those boycotts are working out for the protesters. Hasn’t CFA been doing record sales the last couple days? And how many of the people who are “boycotting” them never really ate there in the first place? ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/56 "2012-08-04T09:14:36Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > So this [righteous asshole](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg-jzlWcc0E&feature=share) decided to engage in some vigilante “progressivsim” by berated some poor girl at a Chik-fil-a in Tucson for working for a hateful company. Yeah, I know Chik-fil-a sucks, its boss is a bigot, but WTF, this girl just is trying to earn some scratch in a job that I am sure she wishes she didn’t have to have. > > Fuck I hate jackholes. Especially smug ones like this guy seems to be. Glad he was fired. I think there are a few different issues here. First, is Chick-Fil-A a wicked corporation for using its resources to oppose gay marriage? Second, assuming that the answer to the first question is “yes,” is it reasonable to berate low level employees over it? Third, was this individual successful/effective in what he did? With respect to the first question, I think the answer is “no,” but I think we need to assume for the sake of argument that the answer is “yes.” Certainly Adam Smith believed that this is the answer. On the second question, I think the answer is also “yes.” If somebody is serving as an Agent of Evil, they deserve to catch some shit for it, even if they are being paid minimum wage. Last, Adam Smith was totally ineffective – the window girl kept her cool and his attempts to bait her came off looking silly and childish. But that’s not a reason to morally judge him. The same thing could have and would have happened if he’d had an encounter with the Chick-Fil-A head of Public Relations. I suspect people are confusing the second question with the third question. I also suspect there’s also some prejudice at work. A pretty 20-year-old girl working a minimum wage job automatically evokes peoples’ sympathy. If the encounter had been with a paunchy 35-year-old male assistant store manager (who still makes very little money and is basically a small cog in a big machine) I doubt the video would have gotten this kind of attention. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/57 "2012-08-04T09:24:22Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > but if CFA is some evil corporation, why are their agents given quarter? I agree. Besides, it’s not like he threatened her or threw something at her. He didn’t even curse at her. I think the real problems here are that (1) his attempt to shame her came off looking completely childish and amateurish; and (2) the situation of a 40-year-old man berating a 20-year-old girl who had been minding her own business automatically evokes peoples’ sympathies. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/58 "2012-08-04T10:35:03Z")
My God, he could not have picked a worse target. He was probably hoping for some mouthy smartass who would tell him to fuck off and shout scriptures at him about how he was going to hell. Instead he got her. That girl seemed so sweet, with such a “please don’t hurt me” expression when he started to go off. She was so steadfastly polite and non-confrontational. He should have ended the video by running over a puppy, just to make it perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/59 "2012-08-04T10:49:55Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > What, we’re supposed to be especially impressed at your support because you don’t have a personal stake in it? Whaddya want, a fuckin’ cookie? Well, _yes_. I mean really; who’d say no to that question? Especially if it’s chocolate chip. Mmmm. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/60 "2012-08-04T12:12:56Z")
I’m boycotting cookies. I hear they recently came out in favour of Voter ID. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329.md?page=4)