# Ugh, Embarrassed this Douche is on "My side" (Chik-fil-a) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 3, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329 "2012-08-03T18:15:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/101 "2012-08-04T19:31:50Z")
> [@thunderdog](#): > > I had never heard of this food chain before all this stuff. After searching I found there is one 2 miles from my house. I do not eat junk food often, but I will be going there a couple times a month to support them. Welcome to the Dope. May I take your sock puppet? ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/102 "2012-08-04T19:40:15Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > What would you expect the employee to do? Quit his job and join the 8.3% unemployed while searching for a new way to support himself? Your complaint is with the company and it’s policy, not it’s workforce laboring to put food on the table. If those employees were grinding up live kittens to make dog food you might have a point, but that’s not close to what’s happening. Where between opposing SSM and kitten-grinding is the drop off point? The kitten-grinder working for minimum wage would still have to join the ranks of the unemployed to take a stand. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/103 "2012-08-04T19:42:43Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > What would you expect the employee to do? Quit his job and join the 8.3% unemployed while searching for a new way to support himself? Perhaps. Or perhaps look for a new job and quit upon finding a new job. Or perhaps complain to management that the Evil Employer should give up its Evil Agenda. > [@](#): > > Your complaint is with the company and it’s policy, not it’s workforce laboring to put food on the table. So you feel that generally speaking, Agents of Evil deserve no scorn, condemnation, or criticism for the evil they help to perpetrate if they are low-level employees, just doing their jobs to put food on the table? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/104 "2012-08-04T19:48:36Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I hope Chick Fil A gives that girl a nice bonus of some sort because a PR exec with 30 years of experience couldn’t have handled the situation better or been more of a credit to the employer. Absolutely. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/105 "2012-08-04T19:49:36Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Welcome to the Dope. May I take your sock puppet? Why’s that? Because he doesn’t express the liberal attitude toward SSM that you do? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/106 "2012-08-04T19:50:59Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > So you feel that generally speaking, Agents of Evil deserve no scorn, condemnation, or criticism for the evil they help to perpetrate if they are low-level employees, just doing their jobs to put food on the table? Adam, is that you? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/107 "2012-08-04T19:53:17Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > What I don’t understand is why he felt the need to say “I’m heterosexual” after he was such an ass. 😕 I would guess it’s mostly because he feels it gives him more credibility since he is arguably advocating on behalf of a group to which he does not belong. And maybe just a little bit because deep down he is worried that the likes of Dan Cathy are right and that homosexual conduct is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/108 "2012-08-04T19:54:58Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Adam, is that you? :rolleyes: Lol, no. I just think the guy’s being excessively condemned. Or at least that he’s being condemned for the wrong reasons. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/109 "2012-08-04T19:58:12Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Lol, no. I just think the guy’s being excessively condemned. Or at least that he’s being condemned for the wrong reasons. Or so you say…😉 ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/110 "2012-08-04T20:02:26Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Perhaps. Or perhaps look for a new job and quit upon finding a new job. Or perhaps complain to management that the Evil Employer should give up its Evil Agenda. Sure, because being fired is a great way to teach those evil corporate bastards a lesson or two. I’m sure the finance company would gladly forgive your next car payment if you quit your job and explained to them you did so because of this agent-of-evil bullshit. And, if you happen to have kids who depend on that paycheck for their next meal, then what the hell, let them eat cake. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/111 "2012-08-04T20:05:16Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Sure, because being fired is a great way to teach those evil corporate bastards a lesson or two. A polite complaint is unlikely to result in a discharge. Anyway, please answer my question from before: So you feel that generally speaking, Agents of Evil deserve no scorn, condemnation, or criticism for the evil they help to perpetrate if they are low-level employees, just doing their jobs to put food on the table? I’m just trying to figure out exactly what your position is. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/112 "2012-08-04T20:10:46Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Lol, no. I just think the guy’s being excessively condemned. Or at least that he’s being condemned for the wrong reasons. Heck, while we are here I wouldn’t mind hearing your “right” reasons 🙂 Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/113 "2012-08-04T20:14:04Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > A polite complaint is unlikely to result in a discharge. > > Anyway, please answer my question from before: > > So you feel that generally speaking, Agents of Evil deserve no scorn, condemnation, or criticism for the evil they help to perpetrate if they are low-level employees, just doing their jobs to put food on the table? > > I’m just trying to figure out exactly what your position is. A young lady serving chicken sandwiches from a small window is as far from an agent-of-evil as your argument is from logic. You’re sounding more and more like Adam Smith here. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/114 "2012-08-04T20:27:49Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > A young lady serving chicken sandwiches from a small window is as far from an agent-of-evil as your argument is from logic. You’re sounding more and more like Adam Smith here. I agree, but what about my earlier post. If a person decides to boycott CFA, and the boycott works, people like this young lady will be out of a job. Which is worse, some asshole lecturing you, or not having a job? It seems as if a successful boycott would hurt this girl more than some needledick causing her a few minutes of discomfort.. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/115 "2012-08-04T20:29:24Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > A young lady serving chicken sandwiches from a small window is as far from an agent-of-evil as your argument is from logic. Ummm, does that mean yes or no? ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/116 "2012-08-04T20:30:25Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Heck, while we are here I wouldn’t mind hearing your “right” reasons 🙂 [Here’s a start](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7upnqINqS1r55u82o1_400.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/117 "2012-08-04T20:45:27Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > It seems as if a successful boycott would hurt this girl more than some needledick causing her a few minutes of discomfort.. Well, technically the asshole of the OP did BOTH 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/118 "2012-08-04T20:50:01Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > [Here’s a start](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7upnqINqS1r55u82o1_400.jpg) I LOLed. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/119 "2012-08-04T23:15:09Z")
> [@thunderdog](#): > > I had never heard of this food chain before all this stuff. After searching I found there is one 2 miles from my house. I do not eat junk food often, but I will be going there a couple times a month to support them. Make it daily. Definitely go for the fried sandwiches, and don’t be afraid to double up. You could _really_ show your support by smoking heavily, if you don’t already. Unfiltereds. And have you considered taking up BASE jumping? Don’t make the rookie mistake of focusing _too_ much on packing your chute. It’s all about having fun and taking a stand, bro! ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329/120 "2012-08-05T01:16:05Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > I would guess it’s mostly because he feels it gives him more credibility since he is arguably advocating on behalf of a group to which he does not belong. And maybe just a little bit because deep down he is worried that the likes of Dan Cathy are right and that homosexual conduct is wrong. Nope. In so doing, he was demonstrating what a cheerleader he is against the engines of hate, even though he has no particular dog in this fight, by hating on some girl who most likely picked up the job so she can pay her cell phone bill. _He should be lauded. Viva la revolution!_ /sarcasm > [@jtgain](#): > > I agree, but what about my earlier post. If a person decides to boycott CFA, and the boycott works, people like this young lady will be out of a job. Which is worse, some asshole lecturing you, or not having a job? > > It seems as if a successful boycott would hurt this girl more than some needledick causing her a few minutes of discomfort.. If the company you work for has come out, very publicly, saying they support a controversial civil/human-rights issue you’re against (or are even for), and this company loses money and has to downsize or even close their doors for doing so, because potential customers support or don’t support with their wallets – that’s on the company and their dumb-ass policy. You can’t put blame on me for not buying a chicken sandwich because I don’t agree with the business’s political leanings, just because the minimum wage workers might lose their jobs. If anything, I’d rather CFA drop their hateful policy and save the jobs they’ve created, if it comes to that. Yet, if I get in my car, order a free water, while recording myself, berating an employee that can’t do jack-shit about it, one way or the other, you’re just showing how much of an asshole you are, and not doing the boycott or the employee any favors. I’ll just stick to not patronizing the restaurant (regardless to the fact they’re not in my area). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugh-embarrassed-this-douche-is-on-my-side-chik-fil-a/630329.md?page=7)