# Ugliest Car?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 19, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052 "2022-04-19T14:18:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/141 "2022-04-23T02:01:12Z")

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My vote is the AMC Matador.

> **[Car of the Week: 1974 AMC Matador X](https://www.oldcarsweekly.com/features/car-of-the-week-1974-amc-matador-x)**
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> When Jim Schwartz of Hudson, Wis., takes his bright red 1974 AMC Matador X out of his garage, somebody is going to talk to him.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/142 "2022-04-23T07:22:49Z")

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> [@Galactus](#):
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> I always thought the Corvair was a bit ugly.

My family had a white '62 Corvair. It looked like a bathtub and rarely ran.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/143 "2022-04-23T14:44:47Z")

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Statistically, there should have been an angle from which they photographed that car that did _not_ make it look fugly.

But … no.

Good submission 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bonum\_Legatum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bonum_legatum/32/6183_2.png) [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/144 "2022-04-23T16:27:44Z")

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When I see a vehicle and think “ugly”, it is usually because the styling theme was not carried through. It’s like listening to a melody and hearing a sudden discord. So even a four-door family sedan can avoid being ugly

As an example of styling discord, I give you the BMW i3. It looks like the rear door window was salvaged from another vehicle and pasted onto this one.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/Ajc9JNJ.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/Ajc9JNJ.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/145 "2022-04-23T16:31:04Z")

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[![](https://i.imgur.com/t5gS8xw.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/t5gS8xw.jpeg)

One author proposed the Nash Airflyte. Compared it to a face - as a person with clenched teeth.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/146 "2022-04-23T17:03:00Z")

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It’s ugly, alright, but I don’t have a problem with the grill. It’s more that the designers seem to have tried really hard to make the whole thing look like an inverted bathtub.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/147 "2022-04-23T17:17:37Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> It’s more that the designers seem to have tried really hard to make the whole thing look like an inverted bathtub.

And without fenders, wouldn’t the wheels and their housings get quickly covered in dirt?

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**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/148 "2022-04-23T17:44:18Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> My Element was all gloss black. It looked fine. The ones that had those gigantic plastic panels were ugly.

I had the plastic panels. I liked the look better because otherwise they were similar to everything else. IIRC even though yours was all one color (and there were all one color besides black of course), the panels were still there. They were painted, but they were plastic. I’m not clear why they used them. Weight savings? Didn’t need painting if they scratched? IDK.

> [@River\_Hippie](#):
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> My vote is the AMC Matador.

Yeah, ugh.

Rather than further hijack this thread, I’ll start a new one.

> [@American Motors, Rambler, Nash, etc](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/american-motors-rambler-nash-etc/963323):
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> Let’s talk about the defunct American Motors Corporation, which gave us the Gremlin, Pacer, Matador, etc., each of which garnered at least one mention in the Ugliest Car thread. I never owned one but they always intrigued me. First of all, I worked with a guy who said that back in the early 1970s he was graduating from college and needed a vehicle. He wanted a Japanese car. His credit union didn’t have enough confidence in a Japanese car’s quality and wouldn’t loan him the money. That’s how…

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/149 "2022-04-23T18:32:47Z")

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What was Chevrolet thinking when they redesigned the Camero from this:

[https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/amv-prod-cad-assets/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/1968-RS-SS.jpg?resize=980:](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/amv-prod-cad-assets/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/1968-RS-SS.jpg?resize=980:)\*

To this:

[https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/amv-prod-cad-assets/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/1970-SportCoupe-Alt.jpg?resize=980:](https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/amv-prod-cad-assets/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/1970-SportCoupe-Alt.jpg?resize=980:)\*

In my opinion, they changed one of the coolest cars to one of the goofiest.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/150 "2022-04-23T18:38:01Z")

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They had better drugs back then.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/151 "2022-04-23T18:57:55Z")

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I find the latest Lexus products’ huge grilles to be fugly…

> **[2022 Lexus LX Buyer's Guide: Reviews, Specs, Comparisons](https://www.motortrend.com/cars/lexus/lx/)**
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> Interested in the 2022 Lexus LX but not sure where to start? Get the picture with the MotorTrend Buyer's Guide, right here.

I haven’t paid too much attention but has it metastasized to Toyotas?

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/152 "2022-04-23T19:12:18Z")

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To some extent, but they look better on the Toyotas. I largely agree.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/153 "2022-04-23T19:41:15Z")

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[https://scontent.fhio2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/278730060\_10225025160809040\_3272095495230935657\_n.jpg?\_nc\_cat=100&ccb=1-5&\_nc\_sid=5cd70e&\_nc\_ohc=WI66R3a2FlAAX-QNRtk&\_nc\_ht=scontent.fhio2-2.fna&oh=00\_AT-Y8iyKK\_MOFDPcceVwrL4wWuq\_D2xLey92PRbTK1P7ig&oe=6269C3AE](https://scontent.fhio2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/278730060_10225025160809040_3272095495230935657_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=WI66R3a2FlAAX-QNRtk&_nc_ht=scontent.fhio2-2.fna&oh=00_AT-Y8iyKK_MOFDPcceVwrL4wWuq_D2xLey92PRbTK1P7ig&oe=6269C3AE)  
How to disappoint eight people at the same time.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/154 "2022-04-23T19:47:05Z")

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You turned a Delorean… into a stretch limo?! (as Marty McFly)

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/155 "2022-04-23T19:48:35Z")

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If we’re going that route…

> **[The Weird and Wonderful Wheels of Jay Ohrberg](https://www.messynessychic.com/2022/01/25/the-weird-and-wonderful-wheels-of-jay-ohrberg/)**
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> He has designed the “Ghostbusters” ambulance car, the “Knight Rider” car, the RoboCop car, the “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle'” van, the Pink Panther mobile, and just about every impressive televised car worth a mention. Step aside Elon Musk, this...

> **["The American Dream," World's Longest Limo, Restored by Florida Man](https://www.motortrend.com/news/the-american-dream-longest-limousine-restoration-world-record/)**
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> This world record holder's resurrection was a long time coming.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/156 "2022-04-23T19:50:16Z")

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Well, there was nothing in the OP about it having to be a production line car. 😄

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/157 "2022-04-23T20:00:05Z")

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> [@lobotomyboy63](#):
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> I haven’t paid too much attention but has it metastasized to Toyotas?

> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> To some extent, but they look better on the Toyotas. I largely agree.

Yes to both – it has somewhat metastasized to Toyotas (unfortunately) but isn’t nearly as ugly. I’ve generally liked most Toyota designs; Lexus, not so much. Both are a fine line of cars, and Lexus is allegedly well worth the money, but damn, they just don’t get the styling right. It’s either odd-looking or just boring, not the stylish look you’d expect in that price range.

This 2022 Camry at least looks better than that Lexus SUV, although you can see somewhat of a family resemblance in the grill design.

[https://carimages.d2cmedia.ca/newcars/cb62511778096d1/2022/Toyota/Camry%20Hybrid/MjkxNDg1Xk1lZGlhIEdhbGxlcnk/rkySwosa0Vk2D3HoWZcjKeMo\_GdA93Nns13r6GqXEroJ3WTvnB9ZvAYVmQscjqV\_T40CsCdJbR0iYfBGGE5v2ge3CgNmgQxh6qE-mf2BTn8nSZBhF2IayjnturopXcCWD17llRvLHErX06ZZFmSLzvdnjQlyvB86cyQ8RBCbSbDENTwOwdm3bKZOh6qEG36S/cc\_2022TOC200061\_01\_2100\_0040.png](https://carimages.d2cmedia.ca/newcars/cb62511778096d1/2022/Toyota/Camry%20Hybrid/MjkxNDg1Xk1lZGlhIEdhbGxlcnk/rkySwosa0Vk2D3HoWZcjKeMo_GdA93Nns13r6GqXEroJ3WTvnB9ZvAYVmQscjqV_T40CsCdJbR0iYfBGGE5v2ge3CgNmgQxh6qE-mf2BTn8nSZBhF2IayjnturopXcCWD17llRvLHErX06ZZFmSLzvdnjQlyvB86cyQ8RBCbSbDENTwOwdm3bKZOh6qEG36S/cc_2022TOC200061_01_2100_0040.png)

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The guy who created that DeLorean limo has created other things out of wrecked cars.

> **[Meet the man who built a DeLorean monster truck](https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/news/a24465/meet-the-man-who-built-a-delorean-monster-truck-and-limo/)**
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> He also built a DeLorean limo, hovercraft and convertible.

I can’t seem to find anything about what powers that limo but I hope it’s not the stock V6 or it would have trouble getting out if its own way.

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There are probably many people who like the style of the Polestar 2. I find it a little bare. 😉

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-car/963052/160 "2022-04-23T20:11:19Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Yes to both – it has somewhat metastasized to Toyotas (unfortunately) but isn’t nearly as ugly.

If you’re in a minor accident, is fixing the front end going to be more expensive? Not just a bumper, but the grille as well?

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Lexus is allegedly well worth the money

Yes, I have that impression as well. And it’s cheaper than a Mercedes or BMW at starting base price. That’s probably partly why.

> **[Compare BMW X5 vs Lexus RX](https://carbuzz.com/compare/bmw-x5-vs-lexus-rx#cars=i_90461-vs-i_91978-vs-i_90789)**
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> How does the BMW X5 compare to the Lexus RX? Check out all the vital info side-by-side from pricing to performance specs

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