# Ugliest rock n roll legal battles **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 12, 2018, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840 "2018-10-12T06:27:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840/41 "2018-10-15T06:17:57Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > Bob Daisley is going to have to keep suing Ozzy Osbourne to get the money that he’s owed. > [Https://wror.com/2017/05/05/ozzy-osbourne-royalties-lawsuit-dismissed/](Https://wror.com/2017/05/05/ozzy-osbourne-royalties-lawsuit-dismissed/) In reissues of “The Blizzard of Oz” and “Diary of a Madman” Sharon Osbourne replaced Daisely and Kerslakes bass and drum tracks in order to avoid paying them royalties. If you want to hear the original you’ll have to do some digging. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840/42 "2018-10-15T06:23:19Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Oh, I know. But I didn’t want to give away the juiciest parts of the story. The best part was when Tate spent a lot of time at the last show spitting on the rest of them. This is interesting. About 12 years ago in our college alumni bulletin the “where are they now” section a college buddy of mine submitted that he played drums for Queensryche. We were amazed since we never knew he played drums and then became skeptical when we could find nothing on the Internet of the sort. Now, this story makes me want to re-investigate. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840/43 "2018-10-15T06:27:58Z")
> [@Reindeer\_Flotilla](#): > > Also for your consideration, Hogdson vs Davies which broke up Supertramp. Similar to CCR, it was essentially Hodgson wanting nothing anymore to do with the band and the feuding commenced. Somewhat recently, Hodgson mentioned that he was finally open to a reunion but Davies, author of _Goodbye Stranger_, said thanks but no thanks. I’m not aware of any legal action. The story I hear is when Hodgson left Tramp there was a verbal agreement with in band rival Rick Davies that Davies could keep the band name but not play Hodgson’s songs and Hodgson would not play his. Several years ago Davies hired a Hodgson lookalike-soundalike who played keyboards just like Hodgson and started performing his songs, and Hodgson griped about it to the press. But I’m. To aware of any legal action over it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840/44 "2018-10-15T07:37:58Z")
> [@casdave](#): > > I think the grandaddy of all these types of legal issues has to be by UK band called Badfinger - you will likely know them by the Nilsson cover of Without You. > > [Why Badfinger Fell Apart With the Failure of 'Wish You Were Here'](http://ultimateclassicrock.com/badfinger-wish-you-were-here/) Nah, we’d know them by “Day After Day” and “Baby Blue.” Good songs. ---
**Author:** ![Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reindeer_flotilla/32/3024_2.png) [@Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reindeer_Flotilla)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840/45 "2018-10-15T08:33:50Z")
> [@russian\_heel](#): > > I’m not aware of any legal action. The story I hear is when Hodgson left Tramp there was a verbal agreement with in band rival Rick Davies that Davies could keep the band name but not play Hodgson’s songs and Hodgson would not play his. > > Several years ago Davies hired a Hodgson lookalike-soundalike who played keyboards just like Hodgson and started performing his songs, and Hodgson griped about it to the press. But I’m. To aware of any legal action over it.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Never insinuated there was any legal action. But again, when Hodgson put out feelers he might be interested in a reunion, Davies was quick to say (politely), go fuck yourself. But if you Youtube any solo Hodgson, you won’t be hearing any _Googbye Stranger_ though _Give a Little Bit_ is a wonderful 12-string guitar number. ---
**Author:** ![Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reindeer_flotilla/32/3024_2.png) [@Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reindeer_Flotilla)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840/46 "2018-10-15T08:42:20Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > Nah, we’d know them by “Day After Day” and “Baby Blue.” Good songs. Also _No Matter What_ and _Come and Get It_. For modern listeners, how could we have the finale to _Breaking Bad_ without Badfinger? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840/47 "2018-10-15T15:28:52Z")
> [@TreacherousCretin](#): > > The warfare between Frank Zappa’s children is pretty sad. Perhaps not that surprising considering how emotionally ugly both parents were. From everything I’ve read and heard I’m with Dweezil on this. I believe that Moon is in that camp. Gail was an awful businessperson. She protected the brand to the point that it was impossible to find his music. It seems that her resentment of Frank fueled her decisions more than good business. Ahmet is worse. If you can find Dweezil talking on Marc Maron’s show about it he goes into details. > [@Reindeer\_Flotilla](#): > > Also _No Matter What_ and _Come and Get It_. For modern listeners, how could we have the finale to _Breaking Bad_ without Badfinger? I always remember them because they were the first band the Beatles signed to Apple Records. The collapse of Apple started their legal woes. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840/48 "2018-10-15T16:07:18Z")
> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#): > > After Carl Wilson passed, Mike Love battled with Al Jardine over the use of “Beach Boys” in the names of their respective bands and their tours. Wasn’t there some sort of restraining order in place at one time during the seventies, that when the band members were onstage they could be no less than five feet from each other? > [@RealityChuck](#): > > Perhaps, but Fogarty also faced a lawsuit where the record company sued him because he sounded too much like himself. Give a listen to Fogerty’s “The Old Man Down The Road” and then spin CCR’s “Run Through the Jungle.” Damn if it ain’t the same tune. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840/49 "2018-10-15T18:58:27Z")
How about [Dennis DeYoung vs Styx](https://bestclassicbands.com/dennis-deyoung-styx-10-10-15/). ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840/50 "2018-10-15T19:16:55Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Not as well known as any of those artists, but in the late 90’s/early 2000’s there was a rising artist named [Poe](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe_(singer)), who had a string of minor hits across two albums, then suddenly disappeared. The disappearance was apparently due to the following series of events, almost none of which had anything to do with her personally: Sounds similar to [Mary’s Danish](https://spectrumculture.com/2012/04/09/rediscover-marys-danish-circa/) in the early 90s. Their label supposedly deliberately tanked them and locked them up in an unfulfilled contract. Great band, I was lucky enough to see them a couple of times. ---
**Author:** ![Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reindeer_flotilla/32/3024_2.png) [@Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reindeer_Flotilla)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840/51 "2018-10-15T23:07:32Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I always remember them because they were the first band the Beatles signed to Apple Records. The collapse of Apple started their legal woes. Your memories are probably more accurate than mine. As a clueless child listening to them on the radio in the early 70’s, I thought Badfinger **was** the Beatles. I figured the name Badfinger was some kind of that groovy hip lingo slang term for the Beatles, like Slowhand was for Clapton and so on. I felt a little less stupid later on when I learned the name Badfinger comes from the working title for _With a Little Help from My Friends_. That and the band was closely aligned with The Beatles, both financially as you mentioned as well as creatively with _Come and Get It_ written by McCartney and _Day After Day_ produced by Harrison thus giving them a Beatle-esque sound. ---
**Author:** ![Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reindeer_flotilla/32/3024_2.png) [@Reindeer\_Flotilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reindeer_Flotilla)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840/52 "2018-10-15T23:25:25Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > How about [Dennis DeYoung vs Styx](https://bestclassicbands.com/dennis-deyoung-styx-10-10-15/). Fantastic example. I recall they were planning a reunion tour in the Nineties when at the very last minute DeYoung announced he was allergic to stage lighting and dropped out, leaving them flabbergasted. As far as I know, that was the proverbial final straw in any attempt at performing together. Things then proceeded to escalate over the years, culminating in the lawsuit you referenced. Shaw confirmed to Dan Rather in an interview last April of this year that [a reunion aint ever going to happen](http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/styxs-tommy-shaw-rules-out-reunion-with-dennis-deyoung-personality-wise-i-want-to-be-happy/). As an aside, replacement Gowan has now been with Styx longer that DeYoung ever was. ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840/53 "2018-10-16T04:21:13Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > From everything I’ve read and heard I’m with Dweezil on this. I believe that Moon is in that camp. Agreed. > [@Loach](#): > > Gail was an awful businessperson. And an awful human being, who was married to an even more awful one. > [@Loach](#): > > It seems that her resentment of Frank fueled her decisions more than good business. Agreed. Hardly surprising considering how toxic that marriage must have been. > [@Loach](#): > > Ahmet is worse. Perhaps Ahmet inherited the worst aspects of both his parents. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugliest-rock-n-roll-legal-battles/822840.md?page=2)