# Ugly ugly cars! **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 21, 2004, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340 "2004-09-21T16:11:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/41 "2004-09-22T16:48:59Z")
If you want ugly, [a urinal shaped grill](http://channels.netscape.com/ns/autos/gallery.jsp?floc=g-uglycar1&gname=uglycar&gproj=u&grurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diversionz.net%2F&photo=1) is always a good start. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/42 "2004-09-22T17:28:36Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > Here’s the perfect [link](http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=ugly_cars) for many of those just mentioned… [Here’s an even better link](http://www.uglycars.co.uk/). ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/43 "2004-09-22T18:02:11Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > [Here’s an even better link](http://www.uglycars.co.uk/). Eeek - the first car I can remember my parents owning is on there. The same rusty-beige colour, too, if I’m not mistaken! Witness [the Morris Marina](http://www.uglycars.co.uk/uglycars.asp?offset=30) (third pic down). Even at an early age I remember being rather embarrassed to be seen in it. What’s worse is that, when it eventually packed up, Dad bought _another_ one - only this was a blue Mk 2 with a _vinyl roof_, so that was alright then :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2004, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/44 "2004-09-22T18:32:42Z")
To each his/her own. I think a lot of those cars, particularly the British tiny cars are oddly beautiful, and I love the Honda Element and Scion xB. By the way, does anybody know where I can get an Isetta? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/45 "2004-09-23T14:49:53Z")
> [@photopat](#): > > To each his/her own. I think a lot of those cars, particularly the British tiny cars are oddly beautiful, and I love the Honda Element and Scion xB. In that case, check this out. [http://www.microcarmuseum.com/](http://www.microcarmuseum.com/) There’s even a [virtual tour](http://www.microcarmuseum.com/virtualtour.html) > [@](#): > > _By the way, does anybody know where I can get an Isetta?_ There’s always [eBay](http://motors.search.ebay.com/isetta_W0QQfromZR8QQsas_partneridZ2QQsamotorscategorymapZ6000) and [Hemmings](http://www.hemmings.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/quicksearch.classifieds/keyword/isetta). Also keep an eye on [the For Sale section at microcar.org](http://www.microcar.org/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=106). ---
**Author:** ![TastesLikeBurning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@TastesLikeBurning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TastesLikeBurning)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2004, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/46 "2004-09-23T15:56:51Z")
What I find interesting is how the USA can produce such amazingly beautiful muscle cars of yesteryear such as 60’s era Mustangs and Corvette Stingrays, and yet the vast majority after that in regards to American cars (by that I mean designed for the American market) to me is arse-ache inducingly ugly. There seems to be such a contrast in design sensibilities between these two eras, or am I missing something? ---
**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2004, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/47 "2004-09-23T22:38:49Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > In that case, check this out. [http://www.microcarmuseum.com/](http://www.microcarmuseum.com/) That’s a great website. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/48 "2004-09-24T00:39:35Z")
> [@lieu](#): > > If you want ugly, [a urinal shaped grill](http://channels.netscape.com/ns/autos/gallery.jsp?floc=g-uglycar1&gname=uglycar&gproj=u&grurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diversionz.net%2F&photo=1) is always a good start. :smack: Jeez, can’t you recognise a crome vagina when you see one? ---
**Author:** ![hermann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b487fb/32.png) [@hermann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hermann)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/49 "2004-09-24T02:17:19Z")
I haven’t seen an answer yet, but I’m guessing “PT” in PT Cruiser stands for Panel Truck. ---
**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/50 "2004-09-24T02:31:26Z")
> [@hermann](#): > > I haven’t seen an answer yet, but I’m guessing “PT” in PT Cruiser stands for Panel Truck. I can’t provide a cite for it, but I believe it stands for **P** ersonal **T** ransportation. ---
**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/51 "2004-09-24T02:37:29Z")
Oh yes, and I neglected to mention that the inspiration for the PT Cruiser was the 1930s vintage [Chrysler Airflow](http://www.autohistories.com/chrysler-airflow/). ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/52 "2004-09-24T02:56:16Z")
Or Piece of Trash. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/53 "2004-09-24T04:20:53Z")
I don’t have time to dig around and find links to all the really ugly cars that I’ve seen over the years, but I will post a link to a car that has every car listed so far, beat hands down. Ladies and gentlemen, I present you with [Sir Vival!](http://home.comcast.net/~tuckerfan/pagetres.html) ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2004, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/54 "2004-09-24T10:50:45Z")
> [@Rico](#): > > Oh yes, and I neglected to mention that the inspiration for the PT Cruiser was the 1930s vintage [Chrysler Airflow](http://www.autohistories.com/chrysler-airflow/). Airflow? To me that name says “sanitary product”, not “hip and happenin’ automobile”. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2004, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/55 "2004-09-25T20:43:05Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > [Here’s an even better link](http://www.uglycars.co.uk/). Yeesh! That “bubble car” is beyond hideous. Has anyone mentioned the cartoonishly ugly Plymouth Duster? ---
**Author:** ![Tikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5daacb/32.png) [@Tikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tikki)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/56 "2004-09-29T21:46:53Z")
I just saw the [Chevy RRS.](http://www.chevrolet.com/ssr/gallery.jsp) Maybe it was vantage point from my third story window that influenced me but eeuuuuggghhhh! Who’s brilliant idea was it to put such wide wheel wells on such a squat vehicle and then add a cutsey bubble top as well? I repeat, eeeeuuuugggghhh! ---
**Author:** ![murky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@murky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/murky)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/57 "2004-09-29T22:07:55Z")
> [@drm](#): > > Hands down, the ugliest car ever made is the Dodge Magnum i actually like the new dodge magnum… and it’s certainly better than the honda element and scion! ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/58 "2004-09-29T22:10:04Z")
Wow **Tikki** that is really ugly, and even the convertable format is grotesquely deformed. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2004, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/59 "2004-09-29T22:38:44Z")
I saw another Toyota Scion today, an xA, it was called. It wasn’t too bad. It looked like cross between a Mini Cooper and a Volkswagon Bug. Here it is: > **[Toyota Scion](https://www.toyota.com/scion/)** > > Official 2017 Toyota scion site. Learn more about the scion, Toyota's Mid-size 4WD family SUV, including MPG, pricing (MSRP), features & photos. The angle on the photo isn’t very good, but it was kind of cute IRL. The xB is the ugly boxy one that looks like a Lego car. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2004, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/60 "2004-09-30T00:10:21Z")
I’m sure we’ve all blocked it out of our minds, but AMC churned out some seriously ugly cars for a while in the mid-70’s. The [Gremlin](http://www.javelinamx.com/JavHome/jwr/77grem1.jpg). The [Javelin](http://www.uspowerwheelers.nl/foto/An_american_sunday_assen_11-05-2003/AMC%20Javelin.jpg). The Matador ([Sedan](http://hometown.aol.com/edfbe13/images/matador%20after%201.jpg)),(Hatchback: [Front](http://www.1motormart.com/gallery/74amc01.jpg), [Rear](http://www.bilavefur.com/myndasafn/AMC/1976%20AMC%20Matador-yellow-rVr=maxpix010317=.JPG)). The [Eagle](http://www.javelinamx.com/carstars/bttf04.jpg). The Pacer ([Front](http://www.nrk.no/img/339554.jpeg), [Rear](http://pacer.free.fr/images/pacer/pa026.jpg)). The [Hornet](http://www.19333.com/veronica/veronica333.jpg). And now for the flagship. The Ambassador actually looked OK in the late 60’s ([Cellist sold separately](http://mclellansautomotive.com/photos/B16380.jpg)), but what the hell happened a few years later? [Sedan](http://members.cox.net/weathereye/amc/73ambssdr1.jpg), [Wagon](http://yellow.freeservers.com/73ambwg.jpg). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340.md?page=4)