# Ugly ugly cars!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 21, 2004, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340 "2004-09-21T16:11:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2004, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/81 "2004-10-04T18:38:58Z")

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[What a PT Crusier Woody should have been](http://www.californiacruisers.com/BC404wM.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2004, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/82 "2004-10-04T21:40:35Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> [What a PT Crusier Woody should have been](http://www.californiacruisers.com/BC404wM.jpg).

My eyes! The goggles, they do nothing!

Kill it before it breeds!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2004, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/83 "2004-10-04T22:11:52Z")

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Surely, it’s an improvement. With that car, _anything_ is an improvement short of being stretched or turned into a hearse.

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2004, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/84 "2004-10-04T22:35:34Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _originally posted by murky_  
> i actually like the new dodge magnum… and it’s certainly better than the honda element and scion!

I am really hating the comeback of the station wagon. My parents owned one as a child and I hated every minute of it. I put this much higher on the ugly scale than the outback only because it’s much bigger…and when it comes to station wagons, bigger most certainly is not better (looking).

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all because I really like the Honda Element.

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**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/85 "2004-10-05T00:34:59Z")

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> [@Dooku](#):
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> I’m sure we’ve all blocked it out of our minds, but AMC churned out some seriously ugly cars for a while in the mid-70’s.
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> And now for the flagship. The Ambassador actually looked OK in the late 60’s ([Cellist sold separately](http://mclellansautomotive.com/photos/B16380.jpg)), but what the hell happened a few years later? [Wagon](http://yellow.freeservers.com/73ambwg.jpg).

Ugh… My family had this beast, in 1973 version - green with the woodgrain vinyl sides. Ugly, indeed, but it could seat eight, as long as four of the eight were kids and could sit in the middle, over the driveline hump, or in the back “rumble seat” facing backwards. It needed every one of those 460 cubic inches in its V8 just to move out of a parking spot.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/86 "2004-10-05T01:13:44Z")

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> [@Bippy the Beardless](#):
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> If we include non-production cars than we should also conside [art cars](http://www.geektimes.com/michael/travel/usa/nv/burningMan/1998/0806-sunday/art-cars/) some of which are real ugly in a fun sort of way.

Here’s a whole site devoted to [art cars.](http://www.artcars.com/)

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**Author:** ![murky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@murky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/murky)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/87 "2004-10-06T19:37:08Z")

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> [@drm](#):
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> I am really hating the comeback of the station wagon. My parents owned one as a child and I hated every minute of it. I put this much higher on the ugly scale than the outback only because it’s much bigger…and when it comes to station wagons, bigger most certainly is not better (looking).
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> I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder after all because I really like the Honda Element.

must be true, because the Honda Element looks so boxy to me.

i wouldn’t even think to compare the outback and the magnum. i have never been a fan of the outback… its just so “uncool” looking.  
SUVs were getting so over-played that i think the wagons are going to make a huge comeback.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/88 "2004-10-06T21:18:56Z")

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I’ve never been a fan of art cars - the only thing I can think of when I look at them is what abrasive medium would be the most appropriate for removing all of that s\*\*\* from the exterior.

[This one](http://www.artcars.com/midlife/index.html) was particularly distrubing to me. How can anyone do that to an otherwise nicely restored car? And they ripped out the headliner just to put up some fridge magnets?!?!

[This one](http://www.artcars.com/tuppertime/index.html) is pretty stupid too.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ugly-ugly-cars/265340/89 "2004-10-06T22:01:27Z")

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> [@Jeep's Phoenix](#):
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> I’ve never been a fan of art cars - the only thing I can think of when I look at them is what abrasive medium would be the most appropriate for removing all of that s\*\*\* from the exterior.
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> [This one](http://www.artcars.com/midlife/index.html) was particularly distrubing to me. How can anyone do that to an otherwise nicely restored car? And they ripped out the headliner just to put up some fridge magnets?!?!
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> [This one](http://www.artcars.com/tuppertime/index.html) is pretty stupid too.

I completely agree. I find [this one](http://www.geektimes.com/michael/travel/usa/nv/burningMan/1998/0806-sunday/art-cars/images/19980806026-art-car.jpg) infuriating, because there’s only a couple of models of cars that it could be, and they’re getting hard to find.

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