# Uh, so what was John and Kate Plus 8's announcement? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 23, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674 "2009-06-23T02:17:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/41 "2009-06-23T18:17:27Z")
I never watch the show and have actually been wondering who these two people are that I keep seeing on magazines when I buy groceries. But a quote that really annoyed me was by the guy when they were starting to talk about the dissolution of their marriage: > [@](#): > > “It’s been a hard seven or eight months,” Jon said in one of his separate on-camera sessions. “It’s been a really hard last four months. This is the hardest episode ever.” Dude… “The hardest _episode_ ever…”??? If you can’t live your life and acknowledge your decade-old _marriage_ is coming to an end without referring to your own life in terms of “episodes”… well, fuck! Something is very, very wrong there. (Pardon the language.) ---
**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/42 "2009-06-23T18:21:37Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > Didn’t a Doper claim he or she saw Jon hitting on some young women in a bar a few months back? Don’t know if it was a Doper but that is the story all the tabloids, People, US, etc. have been reporting. He was supposedly buying women drinks, hitting on them, etc. and was seen leaving the bar with a few women and not wearing his wedding ring. Now there are reports that he has been having an affair for a few months with one of them - a 20ish teacher named Deanna. There are pics of them together, including at the house, and supposedly she went with him when he filmed the ‘skiing for charity’ episode that aired a few weeks back. Her brother (also her roommate) is one of the people confirming the affair, he claims he has heard them having sex. Whether this is true or not, is is awful to have it all out and documented for the kids to read someday. I wonder how they can even be sheltered from it - they wouldn’t even be able to go to a store without seeing huge headlines accusing their parents of all kinds of stuff. Plus they are hounded by paparazzi (although I find Jon and Kate’s whining about ‘why are people so interested in us’ eye-rollingly hypocritical…people are interested in you because _you are marketing yourself to the public on a reality show_. Maybe you didn’t know what it would become when you first started, I can buy that…but you know now and yet you continue with it. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/43 "2009-06-23T18:44:23Z")
I think John’s penis has done enough damage without him going crazy and sticking it into every waitress and floozy he can get his hands on. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/44 "2009-06-23T19:03:45Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > Didn’t a Doper claim he or she saw Jon hitting on some young women in a bar a few months back? Yup - in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=511000) **mshar253** said he saw Jon cruising a college bar on Valentine’s day. And the latest news reports say that the show is [going on hiatus](http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b130667_tlc_takes_breather_from_jon_kate_plus_8.html) until August. ---
**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/45 "2009-06-23T19:23:37Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > They make $75,000 per episode. They moved into their new house last year which cost $1.1 million. They get tons of freebies through promoting other peoples stuff. They got all of those “crooked houses” for free in exchange for the guys company being on the show. That’s why they kept saying “Crooked House” over and over and over again. The worst example of product placement was last season. Jon said, “I’ve been working hard. My Allstate agent has me checking out all the different options on their website.” and then showed us the website. This season they’ve also had all kinds of crossovers, like the Ace of Cakes episode and the motorcycle one. It’s not the same show at all. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/46 "2009-06-23T19:24:49Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > I think John’s penis has done enough damage without him going crazy and sticking it into every waitress and floozy he can get his hands on. The kids were all created through in vitro so it’s not clear his penis even got any real action. ---
**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/47 "2009-06-23T19:28:56Z")
> [@Cat\_Fight](#): > > Didn’t a Doper claim he or she saw Jon hitting on some young women in a bar a few months back? I remember that! It was the first I’d heard of it. The worst thing about Jon is he keeps saying “I’m only 32.” Kate’s a shrew but he’s a big, whiny baby. Of course, if they’d adopted that Korean orphan instead of gettiing more fertility treatments, they wouldn’t have been so overwhelmed. ---
**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/48 "2009-06-23T19:31:12Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > The kids were all created through in vitro so it’s not clear his penis even got any real action. Not so. They were the product of IUI, in which the sperm is delivered by a tube through the cervix to the egg(s). ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/49 "2009-06-23T19:39:59Z")
I’m curious, do they have to pay taxes on all the freebies they get? And if they do, does the network or company donating the stuff pay it for them? ---
**Author:** ![Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@Harriet\_the\_Spry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harriet_the_Spry)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/50 "2009-06-23T19:49:20Z")
I hope they at least tried, or try now, to work through this with counseling. Hopefully not on the air, LOL. They made the decision to have those kids, and there’s pretty much no easy way anyone could earn the money to make a family of that size financially secure. If he were doing it some more conventional way by busting his ass in business, he’d probably be the tyrant. And if they were raising the kids in poverty or even the middle class, that’d be pretty stressful, too. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/51 "2009-06-23T19:55:12Z")
> [@Caricci](#): > > Not so. They were the product of IUI, in which the sperm is delivered by a tube through the cervix to the egg(s). Sorry! But still, his penis didn’t go into her vagina. ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/52 "2009-06-23T20:22:38Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > Sorry! But still, his penis didn’t go into her vagina. If I hadn’t already experienced J&K overload, I have now. ---
**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/53 "2009-06-23T20:25:34Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > Sorry! But still, his penis didn’t go into her vagina. Ah, yes, this is true. Not that I’d care to think of it. And I’ve had this procedure, luckily with different results! ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/54 "2009-06-23T20:28:01Z")
Kate laid the eggs, John fertilized them, facehuggers emerged which latched onto local transients, and the kids burst out from the chests of the unlucky victims, at which point the bossy older sister made half of her siblings cry. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/55 "2009-06-23T21:31:05Z")
> [@corkboard](#): > > If I hadn’t already experienced J&K overload, I have now. You’re welcome! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/56 "2009-06-23T21:38:33Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Kate laid the eggs, John fertilized them, facehuggers emerged which latched onto local transients, and the kids burst out from the chests of the unlucky victims, at which point the bossy older sister made half of her siblings cry. Oh, then I _have_ seen that show! ---
**Author:** ![statsman1982](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@statsman1982](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statsman1982)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/57 "2009-06-23T23:51:37Z")
If you want to talk about penises seeing action, what about that other TLC family? The Duggers, is it? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/58 "2009-06-23T23:59:29Z")
> [@statsman1982](#): > > If you want to talk about penises seeing action, what about that other TLC family? The Duggers, is it? That one definitely won’t end in divorce. either he’s going to be caught in a bath house or she’ll commit murder suicide on the whole clan. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/59 "2009-06-24T00:35:31Z")
So which kid got voted out of the house and into foster care last night? (I voted for Joel- he adds nothing, plus I think Leah’s got the show in the bag.) ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674/60 "2009-06-24T00:38:50Z")
How can it be that I have never heard of this show, and wish I never had, aeven though it’s been going for several years. And now, all of a sudden, everybody and their dog is talking about the damn thing? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uh-so-what-was-john-and-kate-plus-8s-announcement/500674.md?page=4)