# UK Border Force runs "Interment Sites" for Asylum Seekers? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 2, 2015, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-border-force-runs-interment-sites-for-asylum-seekers/713965 "2015-03-02T00:20:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2015, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-border-force-runs-interment-sites-for-asylum-seekers/713965/41 "2015-03-02T16:43:26Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > A lot of those are marked as having no known flag. Twenty out of about 300. ---
**Author:** ![MarcusF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/67e7ee/32.png) [@MarcusF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MarcusF)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-border-force-runs-interment-sites-for-asylum-seekers/713965/42 "2015-03-03T15:01:30Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > [Pjen’s cite:](http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/thanks-to-channel-4-we-now-see-just-how-appallingly-yarls-wood-detention-centre-shames-britain-10078817.html) > > > [@](#): > > > > It was 50 years ago, on 8 March 1965, that American combat troops landed on Nam O Beach in Da Nang to join the civil war between the South Vietnamese and the Communist North Vietnamese. Ten years later the war ended with three million Vietnamese and 58,000 American soldiers dead. Two thirds of the Vietnamese were civilians; the US soldiers were conscripts. Some died terrible deaths in traps set for them in the jungle and many others never recovered from the trauma. US planes sprayed Agent Orange over fields to destroy the land. A large number of babies thereafter were born with terrible deformities. > > [Facility’s site:](http://www.yarlswood.co.uk/book-a-visit/social-visit) > > > [@](#): > > > > Social visits are an important part of a resident’s day and we encourage their friends and family outside the centre to make the most of these important times together. > > Visits give our residents the opportunity to see familiar faces and discuss how they feel. For family and friends, it gives the chance to hear first hand about the facilities and activities available to our residents and reassures them that we are taking every care of the needs and concerns of their loved ones. > > > > Social visits take place in our large, tastefully decorated visits room, complete with soft seating and low coffee tables. We provide a self-vend café bar for both visitors and residents and there is a small garden where residents can sit with their visitors if they prefer. Our aim is to make both residents and visitors feel comfortable and better able to enjoy the visit. > > Pjen, go for a few visits, and then get back to us with what you have learned. Ignoring the non-debate nature of the OP, it’s worth pointing out that **Pjen’s** cite from the \*Independent \*is to an opinion piece - hence the somewhat one-sided ( ! ) bit on Vietnam in the same article but that the basic facts on Yarl’s Wood are not in dispute. Some at least of the staff were abusive and have now been suspended. See this [BBC report](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-31715004)for a recent update. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-border-force-runs-interment-sites-for-asylum-seekers/713965/43 "2015-03-03T15:21:20Z")
I’d just like to point out that most articles in the Guardian are also opinion pieces, no matter which page of the paper they appear on. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-border-force-runs-interment-sites-for-asylum-seekers/713965/44 "2015-03-03T15:29:09Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Twenty out of about 300. Right, but it still contradicts the idea that every county, city and town in the US has its own flag ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-border-force-runs-interment-sites-for-asylum-seekers/713965/45 "2015-03-03T15:56:14Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Right, but it still contradicts the idea that every county, city and town in the US has its own flag You’re right. I should have put some qualifier in there like: > [@John Mace](#): > > Certainly most do. ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-border-force-runs-interment-sites-for-asylum-seekers/713965/46 "2015-03-03T19:06:55Z")
What on earth are you banging on about Pjen? These are immigration detention centres Yarls Woods is run by Serco and is part of the private sector prisons, to which I am actually pretty hostile because it means recruiting and paying staff at much lower levels, with lower staffing levels - and the almost continuous history of problems is a direct result of these cheapest first policies. This is a long running sore, its also a fact that of all the prisons that are in the UK, every single one of the privately operated prisons are in the bottom quarter in all the performance standings. Again, its easy enough to understand why, the pay that is offered simply does not attract enough potential employees, which in turn means they take what they can get - staff of a lower calibre, with poor training and a disconnect from the majority public sector employed staff - which means that good practices simply do not take root. The numbers of staff in these places are low, and its also a fact that in report after report on ‘Measuring the Quality Of Prison Life’ - which is a major indicator of how well prisons are operated, all the private sector prisons come out very low due to inmates feeling bullied, and unsafe. That said, what you are trying to portray in these places is some sort of Guantanamo lite experience, this is just so far from the truth that I feel it is not even worth discussing with you. Instead I shall point out that the blue background in the Yorkshire flag has changed over the years from dark blue to a much lighter colour - but I still prefer the older version ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-border-force-runs-interment-sites-for-asylum-seekers/713965/47 "2015-03-03T19:51:56Z")
Well said, casdave. ---
**Author:** ![BOOM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c4cdca/32.png) [@BOOM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BOOM)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-border-force-runs-interment-sites-for-asylum-seekers/713965/48 "2015-03-03T20:26:20Z")
It’s a comment piece by a C4 journalist with a programme to sell. It would have been nice to know that from the OP rather than waste everyone’s time trying to find that out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-border-force-runs-interment-sites-for-asylum-seekers/713965.md?page=2)