# UK EU In/Out referendum-:Polling day thread.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 23, 2016, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125 "2016-06-23T08:12:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/1 "2016-06-23T08:12:31Z")

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So, the referendum is on today.

Will it be Rule Britannia or Ruled Britannia.😃  
BBC has an [excellent page](http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-36570120)

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/2 "2016-06-23T09:04:03Z")

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A summary of polls from the Guardian:

> [@](#):
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> [ul]  
> [li]ComRes for the Daily Mail and ITV News puts remain on 48%, leave on 42% and undecideds on 11% (yes, that’s 101% – let’s assume there’s some rounding here). With undecideds lopped off, it becomes remain 54% to leave 46%.[/li][li]YouGov gives In a two-point cushion, with remain leading leave by 51% to 49%.[/li][li]Opinium swung a notch the other way, with leave on 45%, remain on 44% and 9% still to make up their minds.[/li][li]And a final TNS poll also edges the Outers ahead, with leave on 43%, remain on 41% and 16% not decided or not voting at all.[/li][li]The FT poll of polls rounds off the campaign with remain on 47% and leave on 45%.[/li][li]Number Cruncher Politics – which stood out in last year’s general election for actually predicting a Conservative victory – now puts the probability of a remain win at 74%.[/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![gracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@gracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gracer)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/3 "2016-06-23T09:40:45Z")

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I know it sounds a bit dramatic, but I feel physically ill. I am Dutch/English. If we vote out I will probably not be able to live in the UK ever again because my partner is Dutch. We’d have to be super rich and all that. I see that with friends trying to get non-EU partners in. It’s impossible.

I can’t stand the thought of not being allowed to live in my own country. (I know this is a reality for many other people and I’m really sorry about that.)

I know the polls say Remain and even the bookies do (always watch the bookies!). But I daren’t believe it. I think the young people will not brave the rain to vote and the disgruntled Tories & racists will.

☹

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/4 "2016-06-23T10:16:47Z")

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My prediction is Remain wins by 4 points

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/5 "2016-06-23T11:01:12Z")

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If leave wins, does Cameron still have a job on Monday?

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**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/6 "2016-06-23T11:29:43Z")

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> [@gracer](#):
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> I know it sounds a bit dramatic, but I feel physically ill. I am Dutch/English. If we vote out I will probably not be able to live in the UK ever again because my partner is Dutch. We’d have to be super rich and all that. I see that with friends trying to get non-EU partners in. It’s impossible.
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> I can’t stand the thought of not being allowed to live in my own country. (I know this is a reality for many other people and I’m really sorry about that.)
> 
> I know the polls say Remain and even the bookies do (always watch the bookies!). But I daren’t believe it. I think the young people will not brave the rain to vote and the disgruntled Tories & racists will.
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> ☹

I split my time between London and Prague and it’s so easy at the moment. No visas, no work permits, come and go as I please. The free movement laws are the best thing that has ever happened in Europe IMHO.

Nearly every non EU ex-pat I know in Prague ended up marrying a local as they got sick of the visa process very quickly. Some of those marriages are clearly just ‘green card’ arrangements. I don’t want to end up in that situation, I doubt my wife would let me marry someone else!

The only glimmer of hope if there’s a leave vote is that the Czech Republic may well follow us. They never signed up to the Euro either and polls suggest 60% in favour of leaving. They just don’t want to be first. We could form our own little club and that would suit my situation perfectly.

My vote for Remain has been cast.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/7 "2016-06-23T11:40:41Z")

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Odds on Leave are rapidly lengthening and showing no sign of stopping, at 8 on Betfair as I write this.

Goddammit. I for one re-welcome our European overlords.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/8 "2016-06-23T13:01:41Z")

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Looks like the Leave supporters are taking lessons from Bernie Sanders supporters: They are promoting a conspiracy theory about vote counters erasing Leave votes.

[http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/people-actually-believe-the-democratic-process-is-being-rigged-with-rubbers--Zkli3Ex5sVZ](http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/people-actually-believe-the-democratic-process-is-being-rigged-with-rubbers--Zkli3Ex5sVZ)

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/9 "2016-06-23T13:01:43Z")

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Voted Remain. A long-standing friend has unfriended me over some pretty bitter words. Outside Waterloo station last night I witnessed some very angry arguments between commuters and pamphleteers - very unlike the British!

Oh, and a horrendously racist Leaver on a bus on Tuesday whom everyone Britishly glared at until he got off, and then someone feebly shouted at his back: “No-one cares!”

I just want this to be over.

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**Author:** ![gracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@gracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gracer)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/10 "2016-06-23T13:42:45Z")

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> [@JacobSwan](#):
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> My vote for Remain has been cast.

All that and then forgot to say: I have been disenfranchised by Manchester City Council! I registered in April, received a reference number and was told Manchester would be in touch, possibly with further questions.

When they weren’t in touch after about a week I emailed them. And emailed again. And again. I tried calling but it took too long and cost too much. Then I contacted the Consulate in Amsterdam, where they said they weren’t allowed to talk about the referendum, I should try the Electoral Commission. I tried to contact the CAB, but that only works if you’re in the UK. Then I contacted the Ombudsman, who said they couldn’t help and I should try the Electoral Commission. The Electoral Commission said they couldn’t help, I just needed to keep trying with Manchester.

Three days before the referendum Manchester got back to me. They couldn’t find anything about my registration at the address I put down, sorry you can’t vote & sorry it took us so long to get in touch.

I am livid. They were supposed to contact me with further questions if they couldn’t figure out this last registration. I knew they wouldn’t be able to work it out too, because last time I voted it was a total mess. But it should have been possible to work backwards to find where I was properly registered etc. That’s why I started with plenty of time!

I am now trying to find out where to turn, but everyone is just pointing to everyone else. Or better yet: not responding. I complained to Manchester directly and they are once again ignoring me.

Absolutely outrageous. The UK with its stupid FPtP system and this shambles is a total banana republic, yet there they are complaining about the democracy of the EU.

Anyway, if anyone here knows where to complain about this…

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/11 "2016-06-23T13:47:52Z")

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[“Scottish Grindr users on the EU referendum”](http://machotrouts.tumblr.com/post/146007685930/remaindr).

It’s only text, no pictures or video, but I wouldn’t read this at work.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/12 "2016-06-23T14:07:15Z")

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This has been very similar to #indyref, even down to the pen conspiracy theories. I can’t wait till it’s over, frankly, and hope we never have another one.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/13 "2016-06-23T14:16:16Z")

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The spouse and I have voted. Both Remain.

Speaking of which, Labour have stuck a pro-Remain leaflet through our letterbox this morning. Leaving it a bit late, guys.

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**Author:** ![RobDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f07891/32.png) [@RobDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RobDog)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/14 "2016-06-23T14:23:33Z")

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Just FTR; Remain x 2 from this household.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/15 "2016-06-23T14:44:26Z")

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> [@gracer](#):
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> Anyway, if anyone here knows where to complain about this…

I’m sorry, but it’s being-hit-on-the-head lessons in here.

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**Author:** ![Galanthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Galanthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galanthus)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/16 "2016-06-23T14:52:15Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> [“Scottish Grindr users on the EU referendum”](http://machotrouts.tumblr.com/post/146007685930/remaindr).
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> It’s only text, no pictures or video, but I wouldn’t read this at work.

This is the single funniest thing I have seen on the internet ever …

Plus, I voted remain …

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/17 "2016-06-23T14:57:14Z")

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Some interesting evidence of the culture war the referendum has ignited/fuelled: Vote Leave are [now telling voters](https://twitter.com/KevinJPringle/status/745982395048992768/photo/1) in England that Scotland and London are against them, complete with photo of "leafy London suburb:

> [@](#):
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> There is a very real chance that voters in Scotland and London will keep us in the EU today despite the heartlands of the country voting to leave.

Heartlands. Get in the fucking sea.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/18 "2016-06-23T15:14:39Z")

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The “Heartlands”…where all the EU money is currently going. If Leave wins, there’ll be a booming secondhand nose business thanks to all the face-spiting activity.

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**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/19 "2016-06-23T16:14:54Z")

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I’m off to the polling station now. With my dog Dylan in tow, as apparently[that’s a thing now](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36607012). (BBC link). He’s voting IN for the record.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-eu-in-out-referendum-polling-day-thread/758125/20 "2016-06-23T16:29:54Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Looks like the Leave supporters are taking lessons from Bernie Sanders supporters: They are promoting a conspiracy theory about vote counters erasing Leave votes.
> 
> [http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/people-actually-believe-the-democratic-process-is-being-rigged-with-rubbers--Zkli3Ex5sVZ](http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/people-actually-believe-the-democratic-process-is-being-rigged-with-rubbers--Zkli3Ex5sVZ)

The losing side in the Scottish referendum vote hold a candle to no-one in blaming a conspiracy on their loss.

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