# UK Football Season 2009/2010 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 18, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878 "2009-08-18T20:16:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/221 "2010-01-13T08:53:12Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Again? šŸ˜› > I was talking with my son tonight over dinner (as he pointedly wore his brand new Rooney #10 jersey which my ex-wife oh-so-thoughtfully provided him with for Christmas), I get great glee that it is Tevez who is lighting up the pitch for City. It will be even more fun to watch him put a few past the posts at Eastlands when United come visiting. šŸ˜‰ Be careful when hanging your sons shirt out to dry after washing, some bugger may steal the clothes pegs:D ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/222 "2010-01-13T13:02:41Z")
> [@fortytwo](#): > > Havenā€™t you got your Scotsmen mixed up? Yes. I did know that David Moyes is not the manager of Birmingham! > [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > Thus, to be offside, Rooney would have had to do one of three things: touch the ball directly passed to him, touch the ball after it rebounded off the crossbar/post or an opponent, or gotten in the way of an opponent/deceived or distracted an opponent. The rule and its clear interpretations make it now 100% clear that being offside itself is not punishable. It can be argued whether FIFA have gone too far on this, but thatā€™s irrelevant to the discussion. > > As for whether or not Rooney was in an offside position, his head was clearly in front of the opponent, and thatā€™s all it takes. This is another aspect to the rule that commentators often seem oblivious to under the newly written Law XI. :smack: Ignorance fought once again, thank you. In that case, you could perhaps argue that Rooney was distracting his opponent, but perhaps not on a strict interpretation of the Laws you quoted. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2010, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/223 "2010-01-13T15:35:44Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > Ignorance fought once again, thank you. In that case, you could perhaps argue that Rooney was distracting his opponent, but perhaps not on a strict interpretation of the Laws you quoted. Letā€™s be honest, Rooney is so fugly that he is a distraction to all opponents whereever he is on the pitch. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/224 "2010-01-15T09:08:56Z")
> [@villa](#): > > Letā€™s be honest, Rooney is so fugly that he is a distraction to all opponents whereever he is on the pitch. Makes you wonder what Colleen sees in himā€¦oh wait heā€™s quite well heeled innit. Anyway **villa** You only manged to beat Blackburn 1-0? Heavens man we crushed 'em 4-1, do try harder ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/225 "2010-01-15T12:14:50Z")
ā€œWā€ is ā€œWā€ regardless. The rest is just show-boating. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/226 "2010-01-16T18:49:41Z")
City 2 down to Everton. Chowder will not be pleased, particularly as United won today. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/227 "2010-01-16T19:15:03Z")
> [@chowder](#): > > Happy days are here again What was that you were saying? ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/228 "2010-01-16T21:20:05Z")
Wow, City came out strong, looked good for all of 10 min., then totally lost the plot. Everton gave them a good-olā€™ butt-whuppinā€™. The ONLY life they showed in the game after Min. 10 was when SWP came on for the ineffective (but at least more likely to touch the ball than the totally outclassed Tevez) Robinho. After having started on the bench, subbing in only because Roque Santa Cruz couldnā€™t go 7 min. without his injury acting up, then getting yanked with a half-hour to go, I think we can safely assume Robinho is on his way out the door, and by his own choice at this point. One of these days, City will have to wake up and understand that money and talent donā€™t do squat in the Premiership; you have to actually WANT to win, and act accordingly. In other news, Liverpool once again prove how much trouble they are in, first scoring totally out of the blue, then letting in the inevitable goal when they play turtle after their own goal. I personally donā€™t think you can blame Rafael Benitez for their situation, but Iā€™m guessing that the owners will soon want to make some change, just to make it look like they care about doing something other than bleeding the club dry of all its cash. And Spotlands was too cold/icy to hold a game, so the efforts of Rochdale are on hold again. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/229 "2010-01-17T16:44:56Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > What was that you were saying? Just lulling the opposition into a false sense of security. The defeat by the toffees was tactical genius on Manciniā€™s part šŸ˜‰ **DSY Esq** 2-0 is hardly a butt whuppinā€™ as you so eloquently phrase it. It was actually a waterlogged pitch that forced the Rochdale game to be post-poned. However, Bournemouth lost at home so the mighty Dale still occupy top spot and have a game in hand ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/230 "2010-01-17T19:18:15Z")
Water is just liquid ice. šŸ˜ƒ And 2 - 0 is a butt-whuppinā€™ when you have almost no decent shots on the goal and the opposition has two or three woodwork jobs. šŸ˜‰ City needed the shot across the bow to remind them hard work is needed. Good to hear that Bournemouth lost; having the lead with a game in hand is always an enviable position to be in. I notice that the Toon are at the top of the Championship with TWO games in hand. Guessing weā€™ll be seeing Premiership footie at St. James Park again next year. **Chowder** , whatā€™s the thought where you are among the supporters about Robinho? ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/231 "2010-01-18T08:41:47Z")
[QUOTE=DSYoungEsq; **Chowder** , whatā€™s the thought where you are among the supporters about Robinho?[/QUOTE] Iā€™m of the opinion that he just doesnā€™t give a stuff about playing for City and until such time as he does Iā€™m firmly in the ā€œGet rid of him for as much as we can getā€ crowd. Thereā€™s little doubt that he is a very talented player but at the moment his confidence appears to have flown out the window. If it flies back in, keep him, if it doesnā€™t, get rid. ++++++++++ Word on the street is that City will table bids for both Gerrard and Torres. A rumour? ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/232 "2010-01-18T11:15:28Z")
Torres might be interested, but Iā€™d be pretty shocked if Gerrard was. ---
**Author:** ![Busy\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Busy\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Busy_Scissors)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/233 "2010-01-18T12:50:49Z")
> [@chowder](#): > > Iā€™m of the opinion that he just doesnā€™t give a stuff about playing for City and until such time as he does Iā€™m firmly in the ā€œGet rid of him for as much as we can getā€ crowd. > > Thereā€™s little doubt that he is a very talented player but at the moment his confidence appears to have flown out the window. > > If it flies back in, keep him, if it doesnā€™t, get rid. > > ++++++++++ > Word on the street is that City will table bids for both Gerrard and Torres. > > A rumour? After their humiliation at Goodison, Mancini has promised at least one new face at City in January. Tevez and Lescott are fighting over it. :D:D Anyhoo, there is loads of speculation over Gerard at the mo on the various forums. Itā€™s been precipitated by his non-appearance for the second half against Reading, a very non-Stevie G occurrence, plus general awful body language / dire performances in the bag of shite that is the current Liverpool side. Usual rumours over dressing-room bust-ups. The root of it, according to the rumour mill, is the fact that both Gerrard and Torres have the world cup ahead of them where they could both do well (likely be Gerrardā€™s last, and did he not miss a previous world cup through injury?). Theyā€™re both carrying niggling injuries that arenā€™t clearing up, and theyā€™re being asked to play by Benitez when theyā€™re not really fit. You hear this sort of bollocks all the time when Liverpool hit a slump. Definitely something to it for Stevie G(bh), though. Heā€™s potentially coming to the end of his prime years as a midfield general, it remains to be seen if he is one of those players who can maintain excellence into their 30s. Liverpool look like theyā€™re on the edge of an abyss - heā€™s got to be thinking about a move. And if heā€™s not, his employers are. ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/234 "2010-01-18T13:25:49Z")
Whatā€™s more Robinho is on Ā£160,000 per weekā€¦One hundred and sixty thousand pounds per week !!! For doing what? Fuck all, thatā€™s what ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/235 "2010-01-18T13:31:16Z")
No, what he is doing is even worse. He is encouraging other squad members to demand Ā£160,000 per week, when their efforts are consistently better than his. ---
**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/236 "2010-01-18T13:56:51Z")
So we go top if we beat Bolton by two goals mid-week, and Liverpool are out of the European places. There werenā€™t many predicting itā€™d be that way round at the beginning of the season. Another weekend where the chasing crowd utterly failed to capitalize on the current comedy happening at Liverpool though. I must admit, I canā€™t shake the suspicion that City and Villa will tail off, and that Tottenham are going to find themselves one Lasagna away from a Champions League finish yet again. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/237 "2010-01-18T15:23:35Z")
I do have to say that I loved Manciniā€™s disdainful, almost negligible effort behind the back trap of the long ball out of bounds that was perfectly controlled. It was one of the best pieces of football by City on Saturday. Almost a pointed commentary on his part about what his players need to be doing (and was Robinho listening? no, he was in the showers by then). Much as I hate to think that spending a pile of money should be rewarded with another mid-table team being taken to the top (Chelsea drive me up a wall!), Iā€™m almost so desperate for SOMEONE to break up the cozy little top-4 grouping that if Man. City can keep it going, and finish in the top 4, Iā€™ll be happy. At least, if nothing else, theyā€™ve managed to bring a bit of sartorial know-how to the pitch, as Mancini has more of that in 1 finger than most Prem managers have in their entire wardrobe. I do remain concerned about the state of English footie, though. The top flight is WAY too dependent upon foreign money at the present. If that were to suddenly dry up, the whole thing would come crashing down in a very big way. The ongoing saga at Pompey is a cautionary tale for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/238 "2010-01-19T18:23:06Z")
Yes indeed - when even Man Utd, the football club that generates the most revenue in the world (or possibly second or third) struggles to service its debt, you know football has problems. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/239 "2010-01-19T18:35:56Z")
> [@Dead\_Cat](#): > > Yes indeed - when even Man Utd, the football club that generates the most revenue in the world (or possibly second or third) struggles to service its debt, you know football has problems. Though this is entiely down to the Glazerā€™s financing of their takeover. It is almost as if I walked into a bank and got them to give me a 700 million loan to buy Man Utd. How much of their own cash went into the deal anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Theodore\_Striker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Theodore\_Striker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theodore_Striker)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878/240 "2010-01-20T01:52:08Z")
I hope chowder has not passed on due to euphoria. what a lovely result today, hopefully the same on the other side in 8 days. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-football-season-2009-2010/506878.md?page=13)