# UK General Election {2024-07-04}

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 22, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932 "2024-05-22T23:15:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/301 "2024-06-28T08:16:13Z")

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Exactly so.

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/302 "2024-06-28T08:16:15Z")

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Well that’s the impression they want to convey … it may or may not actually be true, of course.

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/303 "2024-06-28T08:44:01Z")

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Never mind

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/304 "2024-06-28T11:18:53Z")

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In the US I have heard the phrase, “CNN has learned”, usually said _before_ the piece of informstion.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2024, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/305 "2024-06-30T11:48:42Z")

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And now this:

> **[Led By Donkeys (@ledbydonkeys) on Threads](https://www.threads.net/@ledbydonkeys/post/C80LlrEoO9M?xmt=AQGzlDUHyS-8y4d5KmUcixQ8kpvjMWRt_mDxvBdArF7bZA)**
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> 🚨We just dropped in on Farage’s election rally with a beaming picture of Putin. Nigel was not pleased.

Watch the video. You will not be disappointed.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/306 "2024-07-01T01:50:49Z")

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Heh. Funny little bit of campaign sabotage.

Thanks for the “the BBC can reveal” explanation, all.

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/307 "2024-07-01T07:23:07Z")

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Logistically, how does that even happen? That’s like, some serious planning and insider involvement going on.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/308 "2024-07-01T07:50:06Z")

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I wondered the same thing. I mean, it’s not a fancy venue and it’s not like Nigel has a massive security operation to prevent saboteurs, but someone at the venue must have been in on it and present to trigger the banner.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/309 "2024-07-01T08:28:23Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Watch the video. You will not be disappointed.

Forget about that poster - what about Farage’s suit? Do people actually dress that way? Because of I saw a man walking down the street wearing a sky-blue double-breasted jacket over tan slacks I would punch him in the face on general principle.

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/310 "2024-07-01T09:01:56Z")

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Like a lot of the comments say, he looks like Alan Partridge !

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/311 "2024-07-01T09:54:43Z")

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Beset on all sides - forced to disown some candidates and finding another walking off because he’s just realised what sort of a party it is

> **[Nigel Farage seeks to distance himself from ‘bad apples’ in Reform party](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/30/nigel-farage-denies-fanning-flames-of-prejudice-reform-racism-scandal)**
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> Leader again forced to defend past remarks amid allegations of prejudice in party and candidate’s resignation

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/312 "2024-07-01T09:57:13Z")

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> [@pjd](#):
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> Like a lot of the comments say, he looks like Alan Partridge !

He’ll end up doing a chat show on Radio Clacton (not Strictly, _please_) so he might as well look the part.

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/313 "2024-07-01T10:38:33Z")

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I knew his jacket reminded me of something …

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UHoA0yA97Bw/maxresdefault.jpg "Major - Racist Rant - Fawlty Tower - The Germans Episode - BEST QUALITY") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHoA0yA97Bw)

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/314 "2024-07-01T11:52:27Z")

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I doubt any major influence but; will the results (preliminary) in France have an effect in the UK?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/315 "2024-07-01T13:27:14Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> Beset on all sides - forced to disown some candidates and finding another walking off because he’s just realised what sort of a party it is
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> [Nigel Farage seeks to distance himself from ‘bad apples’ in Reform party | General election 2024 | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/30/nigel-farage-denies-fanning-flames-of-prejudice-reform-racism-scandal)

If sodding Nigel wishes to distance himself from all the “bad apples” he’ll have to leave the party altogether. Or perhaps they could eject him?

Hard to say which is more odious.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/316 "2024-07-01T13:34:43Z")

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I’m in the U.K. now and I find it bizarre that there is more coverage of Joe Biden than the U.K. general election. I’ve tried both BBC One and Sky News.

BBC Parliament is showing the Scottish Parliament every time I tune in

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/317 "2024-07-01T14:03:29Z")

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Try the BBC News channel (Freeview 231) or the BBC iPlayer phone app.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/318 "2024-07-01T14:10:13Z")

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So how have the Conservatives held power for 14 years at this point? Is it the lack of a charismatic Labour Leader? Or did people think they were doing a good job as the UK fell behind the US & EU?

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/319 "2024-07-01T14:37:59Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Is it the lack of a charismatic Labour Leader?

That helped. The previous 2 were fairly uninspiring\*.  
Starmer has been making good headway since the last general election.

\*British understatement.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/320 "2024-07-01T15:06:24Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> So how have the Conservatives held power for 14 years at this point? Is it the lack of a charismatic Labour Leader? Or did people think they were doing a good job as the UK fell behind the US & EU?

Mostly the failure of Labour to present anything more than a feeble Opposition, a lukewarm platform and a series of uninspiring leaders, aided by a rather widespread anti-Labour (and particularly anti-Corbyn) bias in most of the press.

I’d be hard-pressed to find anything the Tories have done a "good job"on in the past 14 years.

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