# UK General Election {2024-07-04}

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 22, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932 "2024-05-22T23:15:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/421 "2024-07-04T21:07:10Z")

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SNP predicted to collapse to 10, presumably a lot of their support going to Labour.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/422 "2024-07-04T21:08:10Z")

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I guess it is saying that Labour will be the majority party in Scotland although I think the polling had them pretty much neck and neck.

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/423 "2024-07-04T21:11:44Z")

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Looks like a stonking mandate to me !

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/424 "2024-07-04T21:14:59Z")

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I was hoping (without much information about the likelihood of it) for a tory 3rd place, with the LDs second. But it was not to be.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/425 "2024-07-04T21:16:29Z")

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While Lib Dems in second place was always a bit of a pipe dream (although I’ll keep hoping until it’s impossible), being a solid third and more seats than all the nationalists and other tiny parties is great.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/426 "2024-07-04T21:26:31Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/Nick_Pettigrew/status/1808903001244852268/photo/1>

“local drink place” 😂

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/427 "2024-07-04T21:42:53Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> “local drink place”

It almost looks like somebody used a placeholder phrase and forgot to replace it.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/428 "2024-07-04T22:10:07Z")

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The exit poll predicts Labour will only get a 36% share of the vote which is absolutely nuts considering the size of the landslide.

It would be 4 points lower than Corbyn got in 2017. 🤯

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/429 "2024-07-04T22:46:24Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> The exit poll predicts Labour will only get a 36% share of the vote which is absolutely nuts considering the size of the landslide.

Is this because of the multiparty system? They’ll win the plurality in enough districts to push them into the majority?

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/430 "2024-07-04T22:58:29Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Is this because of the multiparty system?

This is exactly it.

Labour will consistently win in an enormous number of seats with maybe 40-50% of the vote.

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/431 "2024-07-04T23:00:50Z")

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I reckon that’s translated literally from russian or something.  
A cursory search shows that the russian word for “pub” is пивная which  
translates as “beer hall”.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/432 "2024-07-04T23:43:05Z")

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Just the place to throw a putsch!

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2024, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/433 "2024-07-04T23:56:44Z")

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More pictures of putches at polling places, please!

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/434 "2024-07-05T00:09:36Z")

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Isn’t a general election followed by a meeting with the monarch in which the leader of the winning party is “invited to form a government”? How soon does that happen?

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/435 "2024-07-05T00:14:42Z")

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Re last post:

[When a party leader wins a majority in an election, they are invited to visit the king and form a new government the morning after the vote.](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/04/what-happens-after-polling-day-in-the-uk-election)

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/436 "2024-07-05T00:18:44Z")

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So he’s going to Buckingham Palace on Friday for this meeting.

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/437 "2024-07-05T00:57:43Z")

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Yes he will almost certainly travel to Buckingham Palace tomorrow and it will probably be before all the constituencies have counted. But by then 98% of the MPs will be confirmed. The only way this timetable doesn’t happen is if no party has enough MPs to form a government. Then there would be horse trading until a group can form enough MPs to form a majority coalition.

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/438 "2024-07-05T01:01:01Z")

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Report I’m seeing here (Aust - ABC) is that there is a big swing against Conservative in electorates that voted with Conservatives for Brexit.

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> _For the constituencies that voted to leave the EU, **the Conservative vote could have dropped as much as 28 per cent since 2019** , according to the exit polling._
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> _That is the party who delivered Brexit now being rejected by the people who wanted it._
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> _Also among the leave seats, Reform UK could have enjoyed an upward swing of 18 per cent._

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/439 "2024-07-05T01:11:22Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> So he’s going to Buckingham Palace on Friday for this meeting.

Who would that be?

> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> Report I’m seeing here (Aust - ABC) is that there is a big swing against Conservative in electorates that voted with Conservatives for Brexit.

Typical reaction to Right Wing Populists bad promises not being kept. RW Populists make promises they know they cant keep in order to be elected, and it works! But generally for just one election.

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**Post date:** [July 5, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-2024-07-04/1001932/440 "2024-07-05T01:13:32Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> > [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> > So he’s going to Buckingham Palace on Friday for this meeting.
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> Who would that be?

Keir Starmer, the Labour Party leader and almost certainly the next prime minister of the UK.

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