# UK General Election May 2015 (Population Share Version)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 2, 2015, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612 "2015-04-02T10:29:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/481 "2015-05-07T21:42:46Z")

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> [@Pjen](#):
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> Possibly in coalition with the rightist homophobic DUP rather than the centrist pleasant LibDems.
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> We should not forget how ameliorating the LibDems have been.

I don’t think the Lib Dems will be so accomodating this time, and they may refuse to even work with the DUP alongside them.

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**Author:** ![Pjen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Pjen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pjen)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/482 "2015-05-07T21:45:39Z")

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> [@Malden\_Capell](#):
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> I don’t think the Lib Dems will be so accomodating this time, and they may refuse to even work with the DUP alongside them.

I do feel the LibDems need time in quarantine or to ally with Labour.

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**Author:** ![hammos1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@hammos1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hammos1)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/483 "2015-05-07T21:46:02Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> There’s more than one exit poll out. YouGov exit poll - CON 284 MPs, LAB 263, LIBS 31, SNP 48, UKIP 2, PLAID 3, GREEN 1

That wasn’t an exit poll, it was their last projected result.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/484 "2015-05-07T21:46:30Z")

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> [@Pjen](#):
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> I do feel the LibDems need time in quarantine or to ally with Labour.

Why would they ally with Labour when they could form another government with the Tories?

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/485 "2015-05-07T21:48:07Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> There’s five Sinn Fein currently. Also, the Speaker has three deputies who don’t take part in party politics, so 321?

Thanks, I thought I’d read Sinn Fein only had two. (thanks also **hammos1**.)

Could there be a possibility that Sinn Fein would take their seats? It would obviously be against their principles, but would give them a fair bit of leverage.

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/486 "2015-05-07T21:49:21Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Why would they ally with Labour when they could form another government with the Tories?

Why would they want to this time? They’ve nothing to gain from it beyond being lobby-fodder for the Tories.

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**Author:** ![Pjen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Pjen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pjen)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/487 "2015-05-07T21:50:02Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Why would they ally with Labour when they could form another government with the Tories?

To avoid becoming a soft Tory party. They need to be centrist if they want to be centrist. I was LibDems in England and was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for five years but would have backed out if there were two consecutive terms.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/488 "2015-05-07T21:50:08Z")

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FiveThirtyEight’s live blog seems unfazed by the exit polling showing Conservatives that high: [U.K. General Election 2015 Live Blog | FiveThirtyEight](http://fivethirtyeight.com/liveblogs/uk-general-election-2015/)

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**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/489 "2015-05-07T21:52:35Z")

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That LDEM vote count in Sunderland…

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/490 "2015-05-07T21:52:58Z")

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> [@mascaroni](#):
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> Thanks, I thought I’d read Sinn Fein only had two. (thanks also **hammos1**.)
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> Could there be a possibility that Sinn Fein would take their seats? It would obviously be against their principles, but would give them a fair bit of leverage.

Not without the Oath being changed, and I doubt anybody’s in the mood for that. And a deal with Sinn Fein would be more controversial than one with the SNP.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/491 "2015-05-07T21:54:31Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Well I’m off work long time sick, but I’d much prefer a slightly smaller slice of a larger pie, which is what’s on offer with the Tories. For me, it’s about what’s best for the country of a whole, not just for me - or you, for that matter - and the overall improvements that have been made in the last 5 years are what I’d like to continue.

Are you serious? You’ve just voted yourself into a pile of shit. The NHS will be gone and disability benefits and help will be all but gone too. The Tories have been quite open about this in their policies.

And you won’t get “a smaller slice” unless you’re already rich - and the pie won’t get larger unless you mean by being filled with hot air.

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**Author:** ![hammos1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@hammos1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hammos1)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/492 "2015-05-07T21:57:02Z")

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UKIP vote higher than expected in Sunderland South, Lib Dems lose their deposit.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/493 "2015-05-07T21:57:18Z")

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> [@hammos1](#):
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> That wasn’t an exit poll, it was their last projected result.

Aye, it was a re-interview of 6000 previous pollees, if that’s a word.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/494 "2015-05-07T22:01:42Z")

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> [@SciFiSam](#):
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> Are you serious? You’ve just voted yourself into a pile of shit. The NHS will be gone and disability benefits and help will be all but gone too. The Tories have been quite open about this in their policies.

Nonsense. Absolute, arrant nonsense. Their policies are the opposite of that, no party is going to destroy the NHS, and benefits will only be cut for those who have money anyway.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/495 "2015-05-07T22:03:41Z")

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Did any of the exit polls remember to take postal voting into account?

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/496 "2015-05-07T22:05:26Z")

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> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#):
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> Did any of the exit polls remember to take postal voting into account?

Hard to see how they can. It’s literally interviewing people who leave the polling station.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/497 "2015-05-07T22:10:53Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Nonsense. Absolute, arrant nonsense. Their policies are the opposite of that, no party is going to destroy the NHS, and benefits will only be cut for those who have money anyway.

Many parts of the NHS have already been privatised - basically all ancillary staff (like porters), ambulances, and some common testing procedures like ECGs. And the Tories have pledged to cut ALL benefits except pensions, so you’re basically talking bollocks.

Oh well. You’ll find out for yourself soon enough.

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/498 "2015-05-07T22:11:57Z")

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Rumours that Ed Balls could be in trouble? If only there were some kind of headline you could make out of that, but I can’t think of one.

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/499 "2015-05-07T22:12:40Z")

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> [@Ximenean](#):
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> Rumours that Ed Balls could be in trouble? If only there were some kind of headline you could make out of that, but I can’t think of one.

Balls dropped? Balls cut off? 😃

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/500 "2015-05-07T22:14:55Z")

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Exit poll has to be bollocks - it would mean all polls leading to this were totally wrong excepting one outlier. Makes no sense. Tactical/regional voting will kick in.

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