# UK General Election May 2015 (Population Share Version) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 2, 2015, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612 "2015-04-02T10:29:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/501 "2015-05-07T22:15:19Z")
Privatise isn’t a synonym for destroy. And no, they haven’t. I’ve had my share of benefit issues, but they come from the system and the rules not being applied properly. And no government has successfully dealt with that bureaucracy. All that said, I don’t believe that the Tories will have it as easy as the exit poll suggests. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/502 "2015-05-07T22:17:02Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > Tactical/regional voting will kick in. That may be what _has_ happened, with people voting against Labour to try to prevent a coalition with the SNP. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/503 "2015-05-07T22:20:57Z")
The seeming Lib Dem -\> UKIP swings in the two Sunderland constituencies that have declared is a bit unexpected. Two Lib Dem lost deposits too. ---
**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/504 "2015-05-07T22:22:09Z")
That’s two strong showings for UKIP in traditional northern Labour constituencies. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/505 "2015-05-07T22:35:27Z")
> [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](#): > > That’s two strong showings for UKIP in traditional northern Labour constituencies. Three now. and a third lost Lib Dem deposit (out of three declarations). They didn’t lose any last time. ---
**Author:** ![Pjen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Pjen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pjen)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/506 "2015-05-07T22:43:05Z")
Ed Balls making the point that the Coalition has on this prediction gone from a large majority to single figures. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/507 "2015-05-07T22:47:48Z")
> [@Pjen](#): > > Ed Balls making the point that the Coalition has on this prediction gone from a large majority to single figures. For all the talk of legitimacy we’ll hear later, worth pointing out that it looks like the Conservatives haven’t won an election since 1992. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/508 "2015-05-07T23:08:15Z")
I’m a bit drunk. Probably the only way to deal with this. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/509 "2015-05-07T23:21:46Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > For all the talk of legitimacy we’ll hear later, worth pointing out that it looks like the Conservatives haven’t won an election since 1992. As someone who leans Tory I think it only fair to point out that in the last 2 or 3 GE’s Labour have had a built in advantage when it comes to the ratio of votes to seats. Winning a majority of seats is difficult when you require 2% or 3% more in the popular vote just to keep parity in seats. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/510 "2015-05-07T23:33:49Z")
Well, if the exit poll is true, and I hope not, then dull, patient, pathetic evil has triumphed again, as it does so often in a world of woes. However, it also means the Scots, in their desire for an independent nation have sold out the rest of Britain by ensuring a Tory victory. However I detest nationalism, it may be best to give them this and kick them out. It will condemn Scotland to generations of growing poverty, but their rancour and hatred online will only be satisfied by the tragedy of getting what they want. I love Scotland as a place, lived there, and until recently went there once a year: it seems to have changed beyond recognition; barely anyone had this fervour, not even after the tragedy of Lady Thatcher, and now they are legion. To tidy things, and to make life interesting, it would be best to let all the non-English regions have the same choice. Cornwall can’t go it alone, but I can live with the Islands joining Norway. Best quote so far from the **[rolling](http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2015/may/07/election-2015-live-final-votes-cast-as-battle-for-power-looms)** Guardian ( I couldn’t stomach the Telegraph which Google seems to offer a lot tonight ) at 12:02 \*Why do the outside broadcasts have a five second delay, like Doncaster is on the moon? When will they bring out a hapless, blibbering idiot for Paxman to yell at? Did David Mitchell choose that shirt/tie combo in the dark? Where has Richard Osman been all these years? \* \*My favourite Osman fact of the evening so far – if the electorate was made up entirely of people who like steak and kidney pudding (or dogging), UKIP would have a massive majority. You won’t get that kind of cutting-edge insight with Dimbleby. \* I’m not going to explain what dogging is. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/511 "2015-05-07T23:55:05Z")
> [@Claverhouse](#): > > Well, if the exit poll is true, and I hope not, then dull, patient, pathetic evil has triumphed again, as it does so often in a world of woes. However, it also means the Scots, in their desire for an independent nation have sold out the rest of Britain by ensuring a Tory victory. However I detest nationalism, it may be best to give them this and kick them out. It will condemn Scotland to generations of growing poverty, but their rancour and hatred online will only be satisfied by the tragedy of getting what they want. As I said early and got poo-pooed, this is exactly what the Tories wanted and those up in Scotland have just lapped it up. They been played, they danced to the fiddle that the Tories played for them and have possibly ended up condemning the country. They must be so proud. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/512 "2015-05-08T00:04:46Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > As I said early and got poo-pooed, this is exactly what the Tories wanted and those up in Scotland have just lapped it up. They been played, they danced to the fiddle that the Tories played for them and have possibly ended up condemning the country. They must be so proud. It’s been so fucking frustrating living in Scotland. People of a leftist bent sleepwalking into disaster because, yay, SNP! Nicola! New Dawn! Well done folks, loads of seats but zero influence. ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/513 "2015-05-08T00:14:15Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > It’s been so fucking frustrating living in Scotland. Here’s a [Cheering Up song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tiSww7FJAE) for you… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/514 "2015-05-08T00:15:55Z")
Well this is amusing: > ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/515 "2015-05-08T00:16:51Z")
> [@mascaroni](#): > > Here’s a [Cheering Up song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tiSww7FJAE) for you… > > 😃 I was ten during that World Cup campaign. I _believed_, I truly did. I even learned how to play that on a recorder. Damn your eyes, you swine 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/516 "2015-05-08T00:19:50Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Well this is amusing: > [x.com](https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/596466029280256000/photo/1) Well yes, pretty easily, but then I live here 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Pjen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Pjen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pjen)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/517 "2015-05-08T00:44:27Z")
Andrew Marr has just said that Cameron could be the last PM of the UK and that to preserve the union, Cameron will have to offer something like federalism to Scotland. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/518 "2015-05-08T00:47:40Z")
> [@Pjen](#): > > Andrew Marr has just said that Cameron could be the last PM of the UK and that to preserve the union, Cameron will have to offer something like federalism to Scotland. What makes him think Wales and NI are going to leave in the next 5 years? ---
**Author:** ![PaulParkhead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@PaulParkhead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PaulParkhead)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/519 "2015-05-08T00:56:59Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > It’s been so fucking frustrating living in Scotland. People of a leftist bent sleepwalking into disaster because, yay, SNP! Nicola! New Dawn! Well done folks, loads of seats but zero influence. Because if recent experience has taught us anything, it’s that the one sure-fire way to ensure leftist government is to vote Labour. ---
**Author:** ![Pjen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Pjen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pjen)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2015, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/520 "2015-05-08T00:58:40Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > What makes him think Wales and NI are going to leave in the next 5 years? Scotland is a Kingdom, England is a Kingdom, Wales is a principality. Northern Ireland is a Province (Ireland used to be a Kingdom). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612.md?page=25) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612.md?page=27)