# UK General Election May 2015 (Population Share Version)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 2, 2015, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612 "2015-04-02T10:29:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/721 "2015-05-11T14:58:01Z")

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So apparently Farage has unresigned.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/722 "2015-05-11T15:31:24Z")

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Here’s what I get using nationwide party votes (taken from Wikipedia) and PR using D’Hondt (assuming the Speaker gets a seat):  
Conservative - 243  
Labour - 201  
UKIP - 83  
Liberal Democrat - 51  
SNP - 31  
Green - 24  
DUP - 3  
Plaid Cymru - 3  
Sinn Féin - 3  
UUP - 2  
SDLP - 2  
Independents - 2  
Alliance - 1  
The Speaker - 1

If you don’t give the Speaker an automatic seat, the Liberal Democrats get a 52nd seat, although who knows how many people who voted for the Speaker (or had a spoiled ballot) would have voted, say, Conservative or Labour.

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/723 "2015-05-11T19:06:39Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> This is _entirely_ opposition to policies. Or did you miss the fact that the Conservatives started announced massive cuts to disability benefits mere hours after the election result (an announcement they steadfastly refused to make before the election)? Or that they’re considering increasing the disastrous “bedroom tax”, scrapping statutory maternity pay, and making fitness-to-work tests even more draconian (because that was working so well in the past)?
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> It’s only going to get worse.

Actually, that ‘announcement’ had been on the DWP website for months. A friend of mine works on their websites (and voted Labour), basically writing out the policy detail for their pages, and is a bit disgusted at the media spin on that one.

And I don’t think you can simply sign this off as opposition to policies. Some of it, yeah, but signs saying ‘Tories out!’ isn’t a ‘policy’, but poorly masked outrage at the election result.

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**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/724 "2015-05-11T19:24:57Z")

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Since I don’t think it’s been mentioned yet,

[CUNT](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32685844).  
(No need to click the link if you’re a Brit, you’ll know exactly who I mean)

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/725 "2015-05-11T20:01:03Z")

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> [@Nancarrow](#):
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> Since I don’t think it’s been mentioned yet,
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> [CUNT](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32685844).  
> (No need to click the link if you’re a Brit, you’ll know exactly who I mean)

Without clicking, it’s either Farage unresigning at the “request of the party” or Galloway challenging the result in Bradford.

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**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/726 "2015-05-11T20:04:14Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Without clicking, it’s either Farage unresigning at the “request of the party” or Galloway challenging the result in Bradford.

So… given **amanset** ’s post at #721…

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/727 "2015-05-11T20:26:58Z")

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> [@Nancarrow](#):
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> So… given **amanset** ’s post at #721…

Must have missed that one… I try to avoid thinking of Galloway, he makes me feel slightly ill. He’s living proof that if you go too far to the left you end up back on the far right.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/728 "2015-05-11T22:24:10Z")

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> [@Nancarrow](#):
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> Since I don’t think it’s been mentioned yet,
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> [CUNT](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32685844).  
> (No need to click the link if you’re a Brit, you’ll know exactly who I mean)

_::: sigh :::_

For those who may wish clarification regarding the use of the preceding, here is the most recent pronouncement from on high:

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17968323&highlight=cunt#post17968323](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17968323&highlight=cunt#post17968323)

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/729 "2015-05-11T22:36:48Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> _::: sigh :::_
> 
> For those who may wish clarification regarding the use of the preceding, here is the most recent pronouncement from on high:
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17968323&highlight=cunt#post17968323](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17968323&highlight=cunt#post17968323)

So him directing it against some cunt who doesn’t post here is fine, then?

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/730 "2015-05-11T23:00:55Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> So him directing it against some cunt who doesn’t post here is fine, then?

Perhaps Tom is just clarifying that very point?

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**Author:** ![Ximenean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/aca169/32.png) [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/731 "2015-05-11T23:14:11Z")

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> [@amanset](#):
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> So apparently Farage has unresigned.

Friday: Farage resigns  
Monday: Farage re-signs

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**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/732 "2015-05-11T23:16:26Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Must have missed that one… I try to avoid thinking of Galloway, he makes me feel slightly ill. He’s living proof that if you go too far to the left you end up back on the far right.

What are you referring to specifically?

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/733 "2015-05-11T23:28:03Z")

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> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#):
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> What are you referring to specifically?

The abhorrent, racist, sexist campaign he waged against his Labour opponent in Bradford.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/734 "2015-05-12T01:56:23Z")

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> [@Ximenean](#):
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> Friday: Farage resigns  
> Monday: Farage re-signs

“Let’s eat Grandma!”  
“Let’s eat, Grandma!”

\*Punctuation saves lives.  
\*

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/735 "2015-05-12T08:59:56Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> The abhorrent, racist, sexist campaign he waged against his Labour opponent in Bradford.

Not that Bradford hasn’t had its electoral “issues” in the past but George is a vile, amoral asshole with the appeal and credibility of a syphilitic telemarketer. He needs to go away swiftly and silently.

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**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/736 "2015-05-12T11:34:45Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Must have missed that one… I try to avoid thinking of Galloway, he makes me feel slightly ill. He’s living proof that if you go too far to the left you end up back on the far right.

There I sort of agree with you. I only “sort-of agree” because I’m not sure it’s him going too far to the left that alienated people.

(He used to be my MP and he was shit).

BTW, due to clicking on “first unread” not necesarily being reliable, I might have missed responding to posts on here even if they directly quoted me. I did intend to, but only after a few days of recovery and now I end up being directed to this page despite not having read it.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/737 "2015-05-12T12:28:58Z")

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Looking at the likely field, I’d probably be happy with Charlotte Church parachuting into the first available safe seat while singing the Red Flag.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/738 "2015-05-12T19:23:06Z")

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> [@SciFiSam](#):
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> I’m not sure it’s him going too far to the left that alienated people.

The globe-trotting, publicity-hounding, Saddam-kowtowing and “pussycat” Big Brother performance might have had something to do with it. They don’t exactly give an impression of devotion to serving the constituents. Plus, according to some reports I’ve read, it didn’t help this time that he attempted to play the kind of clientelistic community politics that he’d previously denounced (for which he’d won the support of a lot of younger voters, and now lost it).

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/739 "2015-05-13T09:36:21Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> … clientelistic community politics …

sorry, you’ve lost me?

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-general-election-may-2015-population-share-version/716612/740 "2015-05-13T09:37:29Z")

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> [@PatrickLondon](#):
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> The globe-trotting, publicity-hounding, Saddam-kowtowing and “pussycat” Big Brother performance might have had something to do with it. They don’t exactly give an impression of devotion to serving the constituents.

IIRC, all that happened before 2010.

> [@](#):
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> Plus, according to some reports I’ve read, it didn’t help this time that he attempted to play the kind of clientelistic community politics that he’d previously denounced (for which he’d won the support of a lot of younger voters, and now lost it).

I think that’s got more to do with it. It seems to have been much the same approach as in Tower Hamlets. Plus, he did run an appallingly hateful campaign - I don’t know if you saw anything from his Twitter feed, but he circulated photoshops of, e.g., cheering Israelis with the words “If Labour win in Bradford” superimposed, or of Netanyahu with the caption “Let’s hope our plan to win in Bradford succeeds” (or the like - I’m quoting from memory and damned if I’ll look it up). To make it even worse, the gutless shitheel appended the words “Without comment” to each of his tweets of these images in a feeble attempt to claim some distance from his transparent hatemongery.

Everyone concerned about the threat of extremism should take great solace from the fact that this approach failed so badly.

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