# UK Green party peer suggests 6 pm curfew for men **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 15, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-green-party-peer-suggests-6-pm-curfew-for-men/937953 "2021-03-15T20:19:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 34
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-green-party-peer-suggests-6-pm-curfew-for-men/937953/34 "2021-03-16T19:44:53Z")
> [@mmmiiikkkeee](#): > > The advice of how to defend one’s self is the same for both men and women, and it’s not a burden to listen to common sense. If I go into the wrong neighborhood at the wrong time, I’ll get my ass kicked and my wallet taken. A women might get raped on top of that or instead. If I want to avoid those kinds of risks I take the same advice you’re complaining about being given to women. The vast majority of self-preservation is avoiding getting into dangerous conditions in the first place. We’ve dealt with this kind of false equivalence so often in this sort of threads that I can just quote [a response to a similar post from 2016,](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/slut-shaming/763882/165) swapping out the original quoted phrase “a notoriously bad bar at three o’clock in the morning” with your more general but similarly loaded “the wrong neighborhood at the wrong time” and “dangerous conditions”: > [@Kimstu](#): > > Also, you’re deceptively conflating [“the wrong neighborhood at the wrong time”] with “anywhere at any time” […] A woman should not have to treat the entirety of her social life like [the wrong neighborhood at the wrong time], where it’s _her_ responsibility to expect and prepare for severe danger, and _her_ fault if she fails to guard against danger in every possible way. > > Drinking with your friends in their apartment is not the same thing as [“getting into dangerous conditions”]. Wearing a skimpy dress to an office party or campus kegger is not the same thing as “getting into dangerous conditions”]. Women’s due diligence for their own safety should not have to include regarding **all** situations as highly dangerous and all men as probable rapists. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-green-party-peer-suggests-6-pm-curfew-for-men/937953)._