# UK Parliament Attack

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 22, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774 "2017-03-22T16:59:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/21 "2017-03-22T21:20:00Z")

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> [@ToughLife](#):
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> Lone wolf with mental health issues … as usual

Always a possibility but given the MO is very similar to Nice and Berlin you tend to suspect ISIS-inspired religious terrorism.

It was always likely to happen in London again, it has before and it will in the future. There is just no way to fully guard against it. It is the price of freedom and as horrific as it is we shouldn’t change a thing. Fuck 'em.

Glad to hear that both houses will sit again, as normal, tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/22 "2017-03-22T21:24:02Z")

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My wife was in the neighbourhood of this today, and got caught in a lock-down. She said the atmosphere was one of weird calm, and everyone just determined to keep busy.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/23 "2017-03-22T22:12:54Z")

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Let’s hear it for [Tobias Ellwood](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobias_Ellwood). Presumably as an MP one of the targets of the attacker, he gave mouth to mouth resuscitation and CPR to one of the injured on the scene.

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**Author:** ![Dervorin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Dervorin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dervorin)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/24 "2017-03-22T22:49:43Z")

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> [@ToughLife](#):
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> Lone wolf with mental health issues … as usual

Is that confirmed anywhere, or just speculation? I haven’t seen anything that confirms the identity or motives of the attacker, but I could have missed it.

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**Author:** ![ToughLife](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8797f3/32.png) [@ToughLife](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToughLife)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/25 "2017-03-22T22:55:53Z")

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> [@Dervorin](#):
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> Is that confirmed anywhere, or just speculation? I haven’t seen anything that confirms the identity or motives of the attacker, but I could have missed it.

c’mon, it was sarcasm  
you’ve missed "as usual "

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/26 "2017-03-22T23:31:27Z")

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Glad to see so few use the term ‘terrorism’ - this wasn’t that, this was a dickhead in a hire car with a kitchen knife who wasn’t very happy in his life.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/27 "2017-03-22T23:34:46Z")

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> [@Dervorin](#):
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> I haven’t seen anything that confirms the identity or motives of the attacker, but I could have missed it.

Channel 4 News\* identified the attacker on their 7pm show tonight, and actually had to walk it back during the broadcast due to the fact that the guy they fingered is actually in prison at the moment. Oooops.

- For curious onlookers who don’t know them, C4 News is a proper serious news outlet

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/28 "2017-03-23T02:04:42Z")

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Let’s stop the hijack of ad blockers from this post on, please.

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**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/29 "2017-03-23T10:38:14Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> Channel 4 News\* identified the attacker on their 7pm show tonight, and actually had to walk it back during the broadcast due to the fact that the guy they fingered is actually in prison at the moment. Oooops.
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> - For curious onlookers who don’t know them, C4 News is a proper serious news outlet

That explains why the news wasn’t on the +1 channel then. I missed it at 7 and tried to watch the time shifted version and it was just a slide saying they couldn’t show C4+1 at the moment.

May annoyed me with her speech. She said Westminster was home to the oldest parliament in the world. There’s a few icelandic and manx people who might have a different opinion on that.  
Then she talked about not letting this change our way of life and we should carry on as normal and not run away scared. Easy for her to say after she was whisked away from the danger zone within seconds. Hundreds of her colleagues were held in lockdown for hours.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/30 "2017-03-23T11:04:31Z")

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This is Horrible and my heart goes out to the people of London. ☹

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UPDATE- There have been some a[rrests this morning](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-security-idUSKBN16U0M0).

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/31 "2017-03-23T13:59:12Z")

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> [@JacobSwan](#):
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> May annoyed me with her speech. She said Westminster was home to the oldest parliament in the world. There’s a few icelandic and manx people who might have a different opinion on that.  
> Then she talked about not letting this change our way of life and we should carry on as normal and not run away scared. Easy for her to say after she was whisked away from the danger zone within seconds. Hundreds of her colleagues were held in lockdown for hours.

Shame on you. That is very harsh, Considering all the very sensible things she said in that speech you feel it is necessary to headline with an arguable technical nitpick.

As for carrying on as normal, politicians are, and always have been, targets for terrorism what with terrorism being a political act itself. [The UK is no stranger to this](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/16/jo-cox-attack-latest-serious-assault-mps).

Thatcher herself had one of her closest political friends killed by Irish terrorists in 1979 and again in 1984 when she was directly targeted. Irish republican terrorism was an ever present and only really faded since the Good Friday Agreement. Jo Cox MP was murdered last year by a right-wing nut job and Teresa May, whatever you may think of her politics does not strike me as a someone happy to hide in the shadows while others take a bullet.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Sanchez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rick\_Sanchez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Sanchez)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/32 "2017-03-23T14:03:28Z")

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> [@JacobSwan](#):
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> May annoyed me with her speech. She said Westminster was home to the oldest parliament in the world. There’s a few icelandic and manx people who might have a different opinion on that.

No-one gives a shit.

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**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/33 "2017-03-23T17:40:25Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> Shame on you. That is very harsh, Considering all the very sensible things she said in that speech you feel it is necessary to headline with an arguable technical nitpick.

To expand a little on why it annoyed me. The world is going to be behind London on this no matter what she said. There was no need for incorrect emotional hyperbole. To me she was heading into ‘bowling green massacre’ territory. And there was simply no need for that. It’s just reinforcing the concept that politicians can’t open their mouths without lying.  
I voted remain and I’m fairly liberal, but I’ve been a reluctant fan of May so far and I expected better of her.  
At least I criticized what she said rather than what trousers she was wearing!

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/34 "2017-03-23T20:03:57Z")

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Fine, the oldest _independent_ parliament in the world, all right? After all, Iceland was ruled by Norway and Denmark for several centuries, and Man was never truly independent. Happy?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/35 "2017-03-23T21:32:47Z")

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Besides, if the Brits are anything like the Americans, May wasn’t the one who made the decision to flee the scene, nor did she have any choice in the matter.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-parliament-attack/782774/36 "2017-03-23T21:53:21Z")

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> [@JacobSwan](#):
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> To expand a little on why it annoyed me. The world is going to be behind London on this no matter what she said. There was no need for incorrect emotional hyperbole. To me she was heading into ‘bowling green massacre’ territory. And there was simply no need for that. It’s just reinforcing the concept that politicians can’t open their mouths without lying.  
> I voted remain and I’m fairly liberal, but I’ve been a reluctant fan of May so far and I expected better of her.  
> At least I criticized what she said rather than what trousers she was wearing!

I think clearly we disagree on this. I thought her speech was clear, short and pretty stoic. She’s not given to flights of emotional rhetoric and I don’t think she was here either.

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