# UK politics: Jeremy Corbyn has gone stark raving mad

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 24, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130 "2018-03-24T21:28:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/41 "2018-04-16T15:56:19Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> Apparent?.._apparent?_ that is a very odd choice of word.

The world is waiting for evidence - any evidence, if you have some to share please do.

All we have now is Colin Powell grade bullshit, and the word of 4 or 5 groups fighting the Assad regime.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/42 "2018-04-16T15:58:02Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> They _are_ on the ground, they _are_ being hindered. Care to guess who by? What does Jeremy suggest happens now? quick…quick…quicker than that…ah!, too late. The Russians and Syrians have now removed evidence of any chemical weapon manufacture, storage and delivery.

Saddam Hussain again?

He was great at preventing inspections. Colin Powell told us.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/43 "2018-04-16T17:20:02Z")

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> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
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> The world is waiting for evidence - any evidence, if you have some to share please do.
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> All we have now is Colin Powell grade bullshit, and the word of 4 or 5 groups fighting the Assad regime.

Wow. Not even Corbyn thinks the attacks were made up. That is lunar-landing levels of conspiracy theory right there.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/44 "2018-04-16T17:31:12Z")

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> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
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> Saddam Hussain again?

I didn’t mention him but he is relevant seeing as he used chemical weapons to kill his own people again and again.

Or maybe you think he didn’t…did those attacks not happen either?

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> He was great at preventing inspections. Colin Powell told us.

the UN told us, [the obstruction was a matter of record](https://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/30/world/meast/iraq-weapons-inspections-fast-facts/index.html). Saddam’s deployment of chemical weapons and attempt to develop other WMD’s is not in doubt by any sane person.

Sometimes a genocidal, maniacal, despotic dictator is exactly what they seem to be. The deaths they cause and the manner of their execution is exactly what it seems and no western subterfuge is needed.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/45 "2018-04-16T23:32:25Z")

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Democracy in action. This and dozens of questions like it put to Theresa May today during the Parliamentary debate:

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> “There is clear opposition from British people to air strikes and I think the public are right to be sceptical, so could the Prime Minister also explain how Friday’s air strikes have improved the safety and security of the Syrian people practically?”

USA version: ‘mission accomplished’.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/46 "2018-04-18T17:14:39Z")

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I’m sorry to see that up\_the\_junction has been banned - despite his paranoia about me, he and I agreed on many things - but Corbyn has seriously put his foot in it today, as has Labour. It’s the Windrush Affair, where boarding cards which could be used to determine immigration status were deliberately destroyed, and people are now suffering. Dianne Abbot has called on Amber Rudd to consider her position and Corbyn tried to use Prime Minister’s Questions to blame the affair on May and the Tories. Except that the decision was taken in 2009 - when Labour were in power. D’oh! Basic research fail.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/47 "2018-04-18T18:57:06Z")

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And doesn’t that type of error just sum up Corbyn? He really doesn’t care about the fine details of policy. It’s all about ideology.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/48 "2018-04-18T21:27:50Z")

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Yes. And it highlights another failure of Corbyn: while it’s not the fault of the Tories, the current state of affairs is their **responsibility**. And they have comprehensively fluffed it. And he hasn’t called them on it. May is a stupid, ignorant, arrogant coward \<contd p.97\>, but Corbyn is paralytically awful.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/49 "2018-04-18T21:53:59Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> And it highlights another failure of Corbyn: while it’s not the fault of the Tories, the current state of affairs is their **responsibility**. And they have comprehensively fluffed it.

I’m sorry, but what bit of the current state of affairs isn’t the fault of the Tories? I mean the Immigration Acts of 2014 and 2016 - the ones designed to create the hostile environment - were passed under their watch.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/50 "2018-04-18T23:15:06Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> I’m sorry, but what bit of the current state of affairs isn’t the fault of the Tories?

This bit. It’s still their responsibility, though, because they are in power.

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> I mean the Immigration Acts of 2014 and 2016 - the ones designed to create the hostile environment - were passed under their watch.

We could ingeminate on the faults of the Tories for a long time. 🙂

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/51 "2018-05-15T15:43:52Z")

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Corbyn continues his lunacy by seeming to rule out a Norway style option for Brexit.

> **[Norway-style Brexit option can't be considered, Corbyn tells MPs](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/14/norway-style-option-after-brexit-cant-be-considered-corbyn-tells-mps?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other)**
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> Labour leader tells MPs that EEA membership would leave Britain as a ‘rule taker’ without influence at European Union level

This man lives in a bizarre unicorn fantasy world. All he believes is that hard left anti-EU nonsense spewed by Tony Benn and ilk during the 1970s.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/52 "2018-05-15T17:01:11Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Corbyn continues his lunacy by seeming to rule out a Norway style option for Brexit.  
> [Norway-style Brexit option can't be considered, Corbyn tells MPs | Brexit | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/14/norway-style-option-after-brexit-cant-be-considered-corbyn-tells-mps?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other).

And if you read past the title:

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> Several Labour MPs in the room said Corbyn had not been definitive in his opposition to EEA membership, and did not categorically rule it out, but Mann said the strength of feeling in the room from other speakers against the option had “killed it off”.
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> “It was more than half the people that spoke, it was quite a significant moment in my view,” Mann said. “It was people who have not spoken out before, from areas like mine. They have never voted in favour of Brexit before, they voted remain.”

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/53 "2018-05-15T17:25:07Z")

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I did read the entire article, but Corbyn has always seemed quite set in his ways. I don’t think he thinks in what might be right for the UK or understands that politics is the art of the possible. I see him patting MPs on the head that disagree with him and then plotting his revenge on those that dare to have other opinions.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/54 "2018-06-14T03:13:10Z")

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Good! Corbyn suffers yet another rebellion over his Brexit foolishness. It’s time for another leadership challenge.

> **[Jeremy Corbyn suffers biggest Brexit rebellion and frontbench resignations as...](https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/jeremy-corbyn-suffers-biggest-brexit-rebellion-and-frontbench-resignations-as-labour-splits-erupt)**
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> Jeremy Corbyn has suffered his biggest ever Brexit rebellion as well as a raft of frontbench resignations as Labour's splits over Europe b...

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/55 "2018-06-14T08:29:35Z")

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Just as the Tories are gearing up for one too. 🙂

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**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/56 "2018-06-14T10:00:57Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> It’s time for another leadership challenge.

I think the election method Labour currently uses is highly unlikely to produce any other result.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/57 "2018-06-14T11:08:26Z")

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Today’s [Telegraph cartoon](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2018/06/13/BOB140618_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqLFvFcbCCSSPOPEZoCZQZEsFhfGM2zRzKjwiAbLfWNNk.jpg?imwidth=1400) describes May as ‘near extinction’.

So who would replace Corbyn? And how would they fare against May’s likely successor, Javid?

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/58 "2018-06-14T11:15:29Z")

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I confess, as bumbled as the Tory end vision for Brexit is, as least I can sort of understand what they are aiming for. The Lib-Dems even more so.

Labour? not a bloody clue, and every time Keir Starmer explains it I think I lose a little more brain-matter. I think their policy-making unit is based on riddle of the the two guards. Except, instead of a tiger behind one of the doors there is a coherent Brexit policy and there are three doors not two, and two of them are guarded by John McDonnell and Diane Abbot, Diane always tells the truth as Jeremy would see it and John always tells a lie but that is actually the fault of the capitalist running-dogs and so what he actually says is true. The third door is locked and Jeremy had the key in his cardigan but that on the nail in the shed in his allotment.

There are plenty of competent politicians in Labour’s ranks that the wider voting public would listen to and warm to. Unfortunately none seem be in charge.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/59 "2018-06-14T12:13:36Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> I confess, as bumbled as the Tory end vision for Brexit is, as least I can sort of understand what they are aiming for.

I can sum up May’s (lack of) vision in one word: fudge.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-politics-jeremy-corbyn-has-gone-stark-raving-mad/811130/60 "2018-06-14T13:15:13Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> I can sum up May’s (lack of) vision in one word: fudge.

The Lib Dem’s would be a box of Thornton’s continentals, Labour’s would be…?

…I’m struggling here …Licorice allsorts? 4oz of chocolate limes? (a combination that makes no sense and was clearly designed by committee)

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