# UK Snap Election: 8 June 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 18, 2017, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690 "2017-04-18T10:08:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/343 "2017-05-12T16:52:38Z")

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> [@phaemon](#):
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> You may be interested in Ruth Davidson’s interview on Radio 5 Live:
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> [Ruth Davidson car crash interview radio five live | Aye Right Radio](https://ayerightradio.wordpress.com/2017/05/12/ruth-davidson-car-crash-interview-radio-five-live/)

I’ve just listened to the first 30 seconds - I’m off out for dinner and don’t have the 16:35 to listen to it right now so will listen to it on my return. It’s openly a hit piece - fair play, mind. Is it unedited?

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**Author:** ![phaemon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/977dab/32.png) [@phaemon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phaemon)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/344 "2017-05-12T17:06:28Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> It’s openly a hit piece - fair play, mind. Is it unedited?

Yes, apart from the (unashamedly biased) intro, it’s just the interview as went out.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/345 "2017-05-13T07:01:55Z")

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> [@phaemon](#):
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> Yes, apart from the (unashamedly biased) intro, it’s just the interview as went out.

I’ve just listened to the first five minutes. There’s nothing there. They’re talking about immigration and Davidson appears to be in command of that brief. To when should I skip?

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/346 "2017-05-14T08:44:23Z")

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We obv. have to be careful what we draw from national polls but just considering the general mood, if it’s accurate that Labour are now somewhere in the very low 30s and the Conservatives are hovering around mid 40s, well, it could be worse.

Another few points in England and Wales for Labour and if the SNP hold off Davidson and there might yet be a credible opposition:

> **[Poll tracker: How the parties compare](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39856354)**
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> Follow the latest opinion poll trends with the poll tracker.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/347 "2017-05-14T09:48:07Z")

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I see Labour want to introduce a [Tobin tax](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39910293). Perhaps they should recall [what happened in Sweden](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobin_tax#Sweden.27s_experience_in_implementing_Tobin_taxes_in_the_form_of_general_financial_transaction_taxes).

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/348 "2017-05-14T10:15:19Z")

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I like the look of the [Tories’ plans](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/13/theresa-may-unveils-plan-build-new-council-houses/) for [social housing](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39911569). Encouraging home ownership is a good thing and prevents council (or private) feifdoms. The devil will, of course, be in the details.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/349 "2017-05-14T10:20:39Z")

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LOL. Well, the Tories record on housing over the past seven years speaks entirely for itself.

> [@Quartz](#):
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> I see Labour want to introduce a [Tobin tax](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39910293).

Excellent news. It’s worth it just to have the debate itself included in the election.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/350 "2017-05-14T11:25:40Z")

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> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
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> LOL. Well, the Tories record on housing over the past seven years speaks entirely for itself.

It worked well for them in the 80s. This time around it looks like they’ve learned from the mistakes of the 80s.

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> Excellent news. It’s worth it just to have the debate itself included in the election.

It’s utter stupidity. Do you really want the whole of the London Stock Exchange to decamp?

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/351 "2017-05-14T11:32:31Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> It’s utter stupidity. Do you really want the whole of the London Stock Exchange to decamp?

Scaremongering!

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/352 "2017-05-14T11:34:29Z")

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A [SNP candidate](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39894788) is being investigated for professional misconduct.

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> An SNP election candidate has confirmed that “administrative matters” relating to her time as a solicitor are being checked by the Law Society of Scotland.  
> Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh, who won the Ochil and South Perthshire seat for the SNP in 2015, said she was proud of her 17-year career in the legal profession.

Much as I loath the SNP for their racism and general incompetence, I do believe in the presumption of innocence.

And speaking of the SNP, they’re [failing older people](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39890195) in their care. And older people are more likely to vote.

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/353 "2017-05-14T11:34:45Z")

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Living in Holborn & St Pancras I’m in a rock solid Labour seat held by Sir Keir Starmer, but had Labour canvassers knock on my door yesterday. I doubt any of the other parties will bother.

Currently leaning Labour, but I will be open to arguments until I put pencil to paper.

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**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/354 "2017-05-14T11:35:53Z")

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Double-post!

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/355 "2017-05-14T11:40:17Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Do you really want the whole of the London Stock Exchange to decamp?

You haven’t quite grasped what the Tobin tax relates to 😃

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/356 "2017-05-14T11:41:28Z")

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> [@Malden\_Capell](#):
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> Double-post!

A brace!

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/357 "2017-05-14T11:43:23Z")

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> [@Malden\_Capell](#):
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> Living in Holborn & St Pancras I’m in a rock solid Labour seat held by Sir Keir Starmer, but had Labour canvassers knock on my door yesterday. I doubt any of the other parties will bother.

We had 70 out canvessing yesterday morning in a similarly safe seat south of the river. Grassroots is getting out there.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/358 "2017-05-14T16:09:04Z")

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> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
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> You haven’t quite grasped what the Tobin tax relates to 😃

The lesson of Sweden is that if you put a tax on trading, the trading moves elsewhere. It’s as simple as that.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/359 "2017-05-14T17:38:27Z")

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Taxi!

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**Author:** ![phaemon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/977dab/32.png) [@phaemon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phaemon)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/360 "2017-05-15T07:29:45Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Much as I loath the SNP for their racism

That’s complete nonsense. The SNP have welcomed anyone from _any_ background as members. You keep repeating this idiocy without a shred of evidence.

Let me put it bluntly: everyone in Scotland knows who the racists and bigots are. You can spot them walking down the street, chanting and waving the Union Jack. You know it and I know it. If you like I could post some videos of your best buddies in action. They’re NSFW but they do illustrate the point.

Ruth D has been actively courting the “Orange” vote and seems to have hoovered it up for the last election. I wouldn’t expect there are many left to maintain her momentum though.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/361 "2017-05-15T08:37:04Z")

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Do you folks want to start a Scotland election thread?

No? That’s a shame.

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**Author:** ![phaemon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/977dab/32.png) [@phaemon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phaemon)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2017, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/362 "2017-05-15T09:36:11Z")

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> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
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> Do you folks want to start a Scotland election thread?
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> No? That’s a shame.

If you want to limit discussion of this UK election to England, I suggest you start an England election thread. This one is named “UK Snap Election”.

Still, I guess there has been a fair amount of discussion on the third biggest party. Here’s a blog article about Theresa May and her vetting of questions instead: [Journalists as State Functionaries - Craig Murray](https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/05/journalists-state-functionaries/)

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