# UK Snap Election: 8 June 2017 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 18, 2017, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690 "2017-04-18T10:08:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 46
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/903 "2017-06-08T21:46:30Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Thinking a bit wider, we’re rapidly burning through the two-year Article 50 timescale. A hung parliament, or even a very small Tory majority, is not helpful at all there. The prospect of another GE later in the year, even. SNP HQ on BBC looks worried. The BBC is saying the Tories might make gains in Scotland and Wales and lose big in England. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/904 "2017-06-08T21:48:17Z")
Here’s a breakdown of the multi-broadcaster exit poll from the BBC > **[Election 2017: The seats still to watch out for](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40104373)** > > The places where parties are still likely to make gains or where the result is too close to call. John Curtice (praise him) interprets the poll as having 76 seats too close to call. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/905 "2017-06-08T21:49:43Z")
> [@Steophan](#): > > As I may have mentioned earlier, that faint hope is the reason I voted LibDem. Looks like they will hold the balance of power, if the poll is right. I’m sad that there isn’t a British Macron who can inspire and galvanize those who feel let down by the two major political parties. Leadership is needed for the modern forward-thinkers, and to represent the younger, educated, urban, pro-EU voter base, who have no obvious and inspiring party right now. Tim Farron is no Macron. I’m really missing Nick Clegg right now, to be honest. It would be great if the LibDems went into coalition with Labour on the condition that there would be a second referendum. That would be the ideal solution, short of the complete rejection of Brexit, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/906 "2017-06-08T21:51:11Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Thinking a bit wider, we’re rapidly burning through the two-year Article 50 timescale. A hung parliament, or even a very small Tory majority, is not helpful at all there. The prospect of another GE later in the year, even. I think you’re spot on. I can just imagine a coup in the Tory party and another election in September or October correcting the mistakes made in the manifesto. If the exit poll turns out to be true this is a disaster for both May and Sturgeon. But it’s only a poll, and we know all too well how wrong polls can be. Just to throw it out there, how about a Tory-Labour coalition to keep out the SNP? The Lib Dems, being the party of Remain are not going to ally with the party of Leave. Corbyn was a Leaver really, as are many Labour MPs, so a coalition to get the best deal on Brexit seems possible. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/907 "2017-06-08T21:51:44Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > SNP HQ on BBC looks worried. I thought that they would lose some seats, after all the only way was down for them. But 22 :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/908 "2017-06-08T21:54:01Z")
A hung parliament is probably the worst result May could’ve gotten. She pissed way the Tories’ first majority since the mid-90s and walks away without the mandate she wanted. At least if she’d lost outright negotiating Brexit would be Labour’s problem. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/909 "2017-06-08T21:54:06Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > 326 seats - half the Parliament (650 seats) plus one. This is deja vu from every election thread ever, but it’s a bit less than 326 in practice. The Speaker and Sinn Fein etc ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/910 "2017-06-08T21:55:15Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Just to throw it out there, how about a Tory-Labour coalition to keep out the SNP? The Lib Dems, being the party of Remain are not going to ally with the party of Leave. Corbyn was a Leaver really, as are many Labour MPs, so a coalition to get the best deal on Brexit seems possible. Quartz, c’mon. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/911 "2017-06-08T21:59:13Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > This is deja vu from every election thread ever, but it’s a bit less than 326 in practice. The Speaker and Sinn Fein etc Agreed, unless Sinn Fein take their - presumed - seats: 323 is the majority number ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/912 "2017-06-08T22:02:51Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > Agreed, unless Sinn Fein take their - presumed - seats: 323 is the majority number If it comes down to it, given Brexit and the consequences for the GFA, and the possibility of a hard border with the Republic, I do wonder if the Sinn Fein MPs might not consider taking their seats. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/913 "2017-06-08T22:02:57Z")
I thought 628 total seemed too low for the entire Commons. I guess you’d have to be a whip master to hold together 328 or so on anything controversial. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/914 "2017-06-08T22:03:36Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Quartz, c’mon. Politics is the art of the possible. And they’re power-hungry greedy bastards, aren’t they? ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/915 "2017-06-08T22:09:32Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Politics is the art of the possible. > > And they’re power-hungry greedy bastards, aren’t they? I don’t think we are at a National Government level crisis. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/916 "2017-06-08T22:13:46Z")
Early actual results are more in favour of the Tories so let’s all not start blowing each other yet 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/917 "2017-06-08T22:15:13Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > Early actual results are more in favour of the Tories so let’s all not start blowing each other yet 😛 Yes, but were those Leave areas? _sacrifices another chicken_ ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/918 "2017-06-08T22:15:59Z")
We will see. anyway, let me throw something else out there: the Prime Minister is the MP who can command a majority in the House of Commons. Step forward Tim Farron cobbling together a cross-party coalition of Remain MPs. ---
**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/919 "2017-06-08T22:16:09Z")
Labour gets the first two to declare. UKIP vote down heavily in those two, going to Labour and Conservative, maybe a wider trend? ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/920 "2017-06-08T22:18:29Z")
UKIP are done. Let’s hope forever. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/921 "2017-06-08T22:20:06Z")
The BBC is [predicting](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB1Ftc3XkAA8Kc5.jpg) that when it is all over it will look like this: Conservatives: 314 (-17) Labour: 266 (+34) Liberal Democrats: 14 (+6) Scottish National Party: 34 (-22) (click link for details on the few others…good riddance UKIP) ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/922 "2017-06-08T22:20:28Z")
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