# UK Snap Election: 8 June 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 18, 2017, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690 "2017-04-18T10:08:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![golffan1963](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4af34b/32.png) [@golffan1963](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/golffan1963)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/943 "2017-06-08T22:56:06Z")

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Watching in the USA on BBC Wold News America and also Sky News on my Roku.

Seems on the BBC some think the swing in favor of the Tories in two of the first three constituencies indicates they think the exit poll might be wrong and the Tories may in fact win a decent majority.

We shall see. While I do follow UK politics, I’m not nearly as well versed in UK electoral trends as I am for elections here in the US…so any analysis from the board would be welcome…

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**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/944 "2017-06-08T22:56:15Z")

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I’m being all grown up and going to bed, so I can get the result as short sharp slap in the face rather than a drip feed. Enjoy, all.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/945 "2017-06-08T22:56:26Z")

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And belated congratulations to Chi Onwurah, the just-elected MP for Newcastle upon Tyne Central.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/946 "2017-06-08T22:57:18Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I suspect the party will take it from her regardless of her ideas on the matter.

I think Heath was the last leader to survive an election defeat or reversal.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/947 "2017-06-08T22:58:57Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> A lesbian, Scottish Tory as PM. :eek:

Despite what Labour would have you believe, the Tories aren’t hung up about such things. My local Tory councillor, Ross Thomson, is gay, and his husband is apparently a nice chap. Ross is also the local Tory candidate for Westminster.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/948 "2017-06-08T23:05:44Z")

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> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
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> Small confession time, I did have a smallish punt on a turnout of 70-75%. As I write it’s still third fav but the odds are shortening, well at least a little …this is the live market:
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> [https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.131104264](https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.131104264)

The drinks might well be on me, folks!

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/949 "2017-06-08T23:05:57Z")

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… they have also elected the only women and Jew. I think Heath also was believed to have been homosexual l.

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/950 "2017-06-08T23:09:28Z")

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Hesitate to say it - so, so early still - but the exit poll might not be far off …

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/951 "2017-06-08T23:10:04Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> I think Heath also was believed to have been homosexual l.

Asexual IIRC. There have been accusations about boys but nothing that’s held water.

BTW the BBC seem to think that Ross Thompson will win.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/952 "2017-06-08T23:14:21Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Despite what Labour would have you believe, the Tories aren’t hung up about such things. My local Tory councillor, Ross Thomson, is gay, and his husband is apparently a nice chap. Ross is also the local Tory candidate for Westminster.

And they legalised gay marriage, making us one of the first few countries to do so. There’s at least as much homophobia into the party of the working man as with the Tories.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/953 "2017-06-08T23:24:44Z")

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Hastings and Rye too close to call, may require a recount. Amber Rudd going down?  
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**Author:** ![marineris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@marineris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marineris)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/954 "2017-06-08T23:28:17Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Despite what Labour would have you believe, the Tories aren’t hung up about such things. My local Tory councillor, Ross Thomson, is gay, and his husband is apparently a nice chap. Ross is also the local Tory candidate for Westminster.

Except for this guy:

> **[Tory MP drops out of election after telling pupils 'homosexuality is wrong'](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/28/tory-mp-steps-down-after-telling-pupils-homosexuality-is-wrong)**
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> Amid furore Isle of Wight MP Andrew Turner agrees to go before being forced out, sources say

The chancellor:

> **[Philip Hammond denies comparing gay marriage to incest](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9832473/Philip-Hammond-denies-comparing-gay-marriage-to-incest.html)**
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> Cabinet minister Philip Hammond has denied claims that he compared same-sex marriage to incest.

And this former leadership candidate:

> **[Stephen Crabb has already come under fire for links to a 'gay cure' group](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/stephen-crabb-new-dwp-secretary-criticised-for-links-to-gay-cure-group-a6941281.html)**
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> The new Work and Pensions Secretary was criticised in 2012 when it emerged he employed interns via the religious fundamentalist group and also reportedly took part in the scheme as an intern in the 1990s

And this one :

> **[Here are some brilliantly bizarre things Andrea Leadsom believes](https://metro.co.uk/2016/07/07/here-are-some-brilliantly-bizarre-things-andrea-leadsom-believes-5993147/)**
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> Her mind is a goldmine for the surreal.

And this one:

> **[David Davies MP: I’m not bigoted, I punched a gay man](https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2012/12/david-davies-mp-im-not-bigoted-i-punched-gay-man)**
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> Anti-gay-marriage Conservative MP offers unusual evidence of his tolerance: a boxing match with "The Pink Pounder".

And this one:

> **[Revealed: Tory MP's 'homophobic' past](https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12767609.Revealed __Tory_MP_apos_s__ apos_homophobic_apos__past/)**
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> A senior member of David Cameron's shadow cabinet made his name as a student leader on the back of an openly homophobic stance at the University of…

:rolleyes:

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/955 "2017-06-08T23:28:32Z")

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> [@up\_the\_junction](#):
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> Hesitate to say it - so, so early still - but the exit poll might not be far off …

Doing checks on the YouGov model, it looks like they have got it closer than anyone else so far (except Survation)

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**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/956 "2017-06-08T23:31:56Z")

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Indeed. A huge moment for YouGov. They went totally out on a limb calling it hung several days ago.

Tonight’s exit poll mirrors YouGov pretty well, and the actual results tonight aren’t far off that. So far.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/957 "2017-06-08T23:38:20Z")

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Liam Fox is being quizzed on whether May will stay on if it’s a hung parliament. He went over what felt like the entire history of the U.K., but did not answer the question.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/958 "2017-06-08T23:39:36Z")

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Is there a chance Jeremy Corbyn is becoming Prime Minister, or does this just mean Theresa May will step down and let someone else from her party become PM?

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/959 "2017-06-08T23:40:01Z")

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Nate Silver is having a fit on Twitter trying to make sense of the shifts. North is going more Tory, South is breaking Labour.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/960 "2017-06-08T23:42:55Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Nate Silver is having a fit on Twitter trying to make sense of the shifts. North is going more Tory, South is breaking Labour.

It looks like the collapsed UKIP vote is getting reassigned way more 50:50 between Labour and Conservatives than expected. Which is weird, tbh.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/961 "2017-06-08T23:46:33Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Is there a chance Jeremy Corbyn is becoming Prime Minister, or does this just mean Theresa May will step down and let someone else from her party become PM?

It’s too soon imo; first thing she has to do is avoid the whiskey and revolver option tonight.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2017, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/962 "2017-06-08T23:46:42Z")

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Rumours abound that Nick Clegg’s coat is on a shoogly peg

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