# UK Snap Election: 8 June 2017 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 18, 2017, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690 "2017-04-18T10:08:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 58
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1143 "2017-06-09T14:14:25Z")
As an interested and semi-informed observer from across the pond, I have to say I am pleased with this result. I believe it was a completely politically craven decision by May to reverse herself and call this election after repeatedly saying she was against an early vote. It’s not often in politics that you reap what you sow so clearly. ---
**Author:** ![marineris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@marineris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marineris)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1144 "2017-06-09T14:32:01Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I won’t dispute the latter point but as I recall it the Conservatives were strongly divided on the issue; it passed with the blessing of the more socially progressive half of the Tories (including Cameron) and the strong backing of Labour (and presumably the LibDems too). Yeeah, the majority of Tory MPs voted against the bill at the Third Reading. It only became law as a result of overwhelming opposition party support. from [The Public Whip — Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill — Third Reading - 21 May 2013 at 18:59](http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/division.php?date=2013-05-21&number=11&display=allpossible) Conservative votes in favour of Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill - 117 Conservative votes against Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill - 127 Labour votes in favour of Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill - 194 Labour votes against Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill - 14 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1145 "2017-06-09T15:14:27Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > UK election nights in a picture: [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB2PcwbXYAAchQi.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB2PcwbXYAAchQi.jpg) None shall pass. I just started a thread about Sinn Fein abstentionism: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=828196](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=828196) ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1146 "2017-06-09T15:44:05Z")
Some early analysis of voting patterns here: [https://twitter.com/ChrisGiles\_/status/873178501960151040](https://twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/873178501960151040) ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1147 "2017-06-09T18:28:28Z")
Has anyone got a link to the DUP manifesto? I can’t seem to get through to [www.mydup.com](http://www.mydup.com). ---
**Author:** ![marineris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@marineris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marineris)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1148 "2017-06-09T18:30:17Z")
Try this [http://dev.mydup.com/images/uploads/publications/DUP\_Wminster\_Manifesto\_2017\_v5.pdf](http://dev.mydup.com/images/uploads/publications/DUP_Wminster_Manifesto_2017_v5.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1149 "2017-06-09T19:32:34Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Has anyone got a link to the DUP manifesto? I can’t seem to get through to [www.mydup.com](http://www.mydup.com). Here you go [Book of Leviticus - Read, Study Bible Verses Online](http://www.biblestudytools.com/leviticus/) ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1150 "2017-06-09T19:52:59Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Here you go [Book of Leviticus - Read, Study Bible Verses Online](http://www.biblestudytools.com/leviticus/) You are a bad man! ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1151 "2017-06-09T19:55:04Z")
I’m really not grokking the love-in for Corbyn. Sure he performed better than expected but Labour were still heavily defeated. ISTM that it’s more a case of May making a series of gross errors rather than Corbyn being successful. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1152 "2017-06-09T20:12:38Z")
The Kensington count has finally finished, and it’s a Labour gain by 20 votes. Kensington. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1153 "2017-06-09T20:14:02Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > None shall pass. But is Wales swinging at all? ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1154 "2017-06-09T20:27:18Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > I’m really not grokking the love-in for Corbyn. Sure he performed better than expected but Labour were still heavily defeated. ISTM that it’s more a case of May making a series of gross errors rather than Corbyn being successful. Well, even up to a month ago it was generally advocated that he was such a disaster for Labour the Tories would nearly wipe them out by an \>150 majority. And snivelling little Nu Laborites such as Blair and his minions were staging a comeback in the ashes to destroy socialism forever. Not a fan, but he’s done massively well against that background and the Tory Greek Chorus that is Big Media. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1155 "2017-06-09T21:15:51Z")
> [@Evan\_Drake](#): > > Not a fan, but he’s done massively well against that background and the Tory Greek Chorus that is Big Media. Are you sure that isn’t because May is a walking disaster area? ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1156 "2017-06-09T21:23:25Z")
I’ve been to a gathering of south London party people - volunteers and elected - and didn’t speak to anyone who thought this Parliament can work. October is fav for the next General Election. Key issue is under the Good Friday Agreement Westminster has to be an impartial moderator or arbitrator. Even John Major in his darkest days of minority Gov didn’t go knocking on the DUPs door. And now, there isn’t even a devolved Gov at Stormont - that went pear-shaped a couple of months ago. Just can’t work for anyone, any which way you look at it. If she tries to make this stick she could undo 20 years of work in Northern Ireland. October … ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1157 "2017-06-09T22:24:56Z")
Sounds about right. That will give a new Tory leader enough time to prepare. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1158 "2017-06-09T22:50:42Z")
Can’t you just kick NI out and wish them good luck? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1159 "2017-06-09T22:57:08Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Can’t you just kick NI out and wish them good luck? Well Malaysia did it with Singapore back in 1965. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1160 "2017-06-10T00:30:15Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > The Kensington count has finally finished, and it’s a Labour gain by 20 votes. Kensington. KENSINGTON?? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1161 "2017-06-10T00:36:49Z")
I just saw that Lord Buckethead got 249 votes this time around! In a different, much more entertaining world, President [Vermin Supreme](https://www.facebook.com/VerminSupreme/) and Prime Minister [Lord Buckethead](https://twitter.com/LordBuckethead) would sign the Intergalactic Pony Accords while this [Buckethead](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyA93RbBndM) played in the background. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1162 "2017-06-10T01:12:58Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Are you sure that isn’t because May is a walking disaster area? She was better than Cameron. > [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > I’ve been to a gathering of south London party people - volunteers and elected - and didn’t speak to anyone who thought this Parliament can work. October is fav for the next General Election. > > Key issue is under the Good Friday Agreement Westminster has to be an impartial moderator or arbitrator. Even John Major in his darkest days of minority Gov didn’t go knocking on the DUPs door. And now, there isn’t even a devolved Gov at Stormont - that went pear-shaped a couple of months ago. > > Just can’t work for anyone, any which way you look at it. If she tries to make this stick she could undo 20 years of work in Northern Ireland. October … Cameron had a pact with the Unionists in 2010 — the UUP not the DUP, but no-one outside Ulster can ever tell any of the Unionists apart — Being Cameron he knifed them. After which he met with Vladimir and Barack in Enniskillen to bring about World Peace. And all the Unionist parties distrusted the Tory’s Anti-Welfare crap. Lot of poor people in that Province. As in Ireland generally. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690.md?page=57) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690.md?page=59)