# UK Snap Election: 8 June 2017 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 18, 2017, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690 "2017-04-18T10:08:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 59
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1163 "2017-06-10T02:02:43Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > KENSINGTON?? :eek: Yes, Kensington. It’s not _all_ billionaires. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1164 "2017-06-10T02:48:35Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > I’ve been to a gathering of south London party people - volunteers and elected - and didn’t speak to anyone who thought this Parliament can work. October is fav for the next General Election… I already feel a twinge of election fatigue. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1165 "2017-06-10T04:23:06Z")
Given that both the Tories and Labour are pro-Brexit, is there anything to stop May from forming the UK’s strongest majority in the history of the UK? Forming a strong pro-Brexit party was, after all, the goal. I think she might just have forgotten that the “other” party wasn’t really running against her on the topic of the day (which would be one cause of this result). ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1166 "2017-06-10T06:58:43Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I already feel a twinge of election fatigue. Believe me, I’m with you. The big, big thing though is that proper socialism got a foot in the door on Thursday - indeed, in London, it got 55% of the total vote - so the grassroots are energised and excited, and young. God, the youngsters are up for it. On that, it’s difficult to not draw parallels with the Bernie Sanders campaign. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1167 "2017-06-10T08:12:27Z")
Reasons to Love the BBC, #xxx in an occasional series - Newsnight is a weekday political discussion show. Nice little 2-minute opening montage: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/RY7iYeFdtTw/maxresdefault.jpg "'May's election gamble': 2017 general election montage - BBC Newsnight") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY7iYeFdtTw) ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1168 "2017-06-10T09:24:59Z")
So the DUP don’t believe in global warming, oppose legal abortion and gay marriage, want to bring back the death penalty and were founded by a fundamentalist preacher whose son is now one of their MPs. It’s like being in Alabama or something, having this maniacs running the country. However they’re for a soft Brexit and want to keep the triple lock and so on, making them rather less radical than the Conservative party. Also, it’s now being claimed by Sinn Fein that the DUP coalition is breaching the Good Friday Agreement. And the Stormont government has collapsed in Northern Ireland. And a week before the election the leader of the DUP was meeting with the leader of the UDA terror group less than 48 hours after they publicly gunned a man down in front of his three year old child. Meaning the terrorists have, quite unexpectedly, won. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1169 "2017-06-10T09:33:04Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Yes, Kensington. It’s not _all_ billionaires. Username/post combo! ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1170 "2017-06-10T09:34:02Z")
… and they have 10 newly-minted, democratically elected MPs. So maybe let the police get on with their business, social media memes with theirs, and perhaps we can continue to try and have a discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1171 "2017-06-10T09:56:03Z")
A slight article of amusement by the sorry old New Statesman \* anti-corbynite hitherto as it was \*\*: **[The result is objectively hilarious - but we should still be angry at the Tories for screwing things up, again](http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2017/06/result-objectively-hilarious-we-should-still-be-angry-tories-screwing)** \*Then again, set against all that, there was the moment around 2am where Nigel Farage – like a soldier who’s failed to adjust to life on civvy street, and wishes he could go back to the war – said the magic words, “We may be looking down the barrel of a second referendum.” This was obviously music to my Remainiac ears, but it did rather make him sound like he’s less concerned about delivering Brexit than he is about appearing on TV to talk about it a lot. \* … \*\*The party has form on this. David Cameron recently defended his decision to hold last year’s referendum on the grounds that EU membership had been “poisoning British politics for years”. But it hadn’t: polls consistently showed that most people didn’t care. What he actually meant was that it had been poisoning the **Conservative** **Party** for years, and sorting that out doesn’t seem to me like a good enough reason to drive the country off the White cliffs of Dover. \*\* We are led by preening popinjays. - Co-founded with others of the same ilk by Arnold Bennett. Since less incisive. \*\* The website has a vile condition of lazy-load: jumping to the next article without mercy. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1172 "2017-06-10T09:57:03Z")
So anyway; I know you’ve all been sleepless waiting for the new Sankey, wait no more! Everything you’ll ever need to understand pre/post Brxit and a country trying to expel the giantest turd it’s ever likely to pass: [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB5Z-VNXoAAChyV.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB5Z-VNXoAAChyV.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![race\_to\_the\_bottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c4cdca/32.png) [@race\_to\_the\_bottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/race_to_the_bottom)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1173 "2017-06-10T16:08:27Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > … they have also elected the only women and Jew. I think Heath also was believed to have been homosexual l. There is no fundamental reason that conservative parties need to be bigoted. It is just that every society has divisions which can be exploited to divide people to prevent them from uniting into an opposition. Once society has overcome this or that division, conservatives will abandon that division and seek another. Today there is gold to be mined in Islamophobia. Anti-communism, of course, is always available. ---
**Author:** ![Salvor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Salvor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salvor)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1174 "2017-06-10T22:28:33Z")
Based on this tweet of a May press conference, I have doubts about this coalition with the DUP. They seem a bit… retrograde. > ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1175 "2017-06-10T23:17:44Z")
> [@Salvor](#): > > Based on this tweet of a May press conference, I have doubts about this coalition with the DUP. They seem a bit… retrograde. > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/TechnicallyRon/status/873171290663813120) Strong and stable. Well, apart from stairs. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2017, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1176 "2017-06-10T23:32:49Z")
> [@Salvor](#): > > Based on this tweet of a May press conference, I have doubts about this coalition with the DUP. They seem a bit… retrograde. > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/TechnicallyRon/status/873171290663813120) Lol. “The Daleks would like to distance themselves from the extreme views held by DUP.” ---
**Author:** ![marineris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@marineris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marineris)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1177 "2017-06-11T00:19:20Z")
> “BREAK: DUP has NOT yet reached any agreement with the Tories. Sky sources: Downing Street issued the wrong statement in error.” I bet that guy with the beard was in charge of releasing statements. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1178 "2017-06-11T01:14:47Z")
I wonder if that’s the Tories being overeager or the DUP laying a trap to make the Tories look weak, somewhat like Trump doing his pulling handshake. If the former, it’s in a long line of May overcompensating for insecurity (“Strong and stable”). She seems like someone who’s always very high strung and hardworking about executing her parents/pastors/teachers/bosses’ orders but has a very difficult time being PM because as PM, depending on how you see it, you either have no one telling you what to do or you have a multitude of contradictory voices telling you what to do. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1179 "2017-06-11T08:55:23Z")
What a shambles. It’s starting to look like Dunkirk, without the small boats. An uplifting piece (if you voted Labour) with several good points and anecdotes of Thursday. It’s stiking me that not only did Labour get the synergy of manifesto, personalities and strategy correct but they did the strategy part for the first time in UK politics. One of the points well made: > [@](#): > > Observers witnessed something similar in Canterbury (where the student population has grown in recent years to 40,000 in a resident electorate of 110,000). The infectious energy the campaign had created also produced a raft of volunteers (“three times as many as in 2015,” Electra Colios says, “young and old, some returning Labour voters, some young professionals, like my daughter, a teacher…”). The energy produced the surprise. Jones and Gavin, both activists since the 1980s, had never seen anything like what happened on polling day. “Young people started arriving in groups of 10 and 20 to vote, queueing, having a good time, after about seven o’clock and until the polls closed at 10.” Willow Colios notes that May was “incredibly naive” in the timing of the election, which came after exams but before students had gone home for the holidays. > **[‘We felt something remarkable happening’: why a red tide rose on banks of the...](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/10/labour-sweeps-middle-england-reading-east-something-remarkable-happening)** > > Even on a night when Kensington and Canterbury fell, no result was more unexpected than when the Tories lost Reading East in Berkshire ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1180 "2017-06-11T08:56:27Z")
dp ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1181 "2017-06-11T09:05:07Z")
The pro-Labour spinning is incredible. A casual observer would think that Corbyn won. Of course, he lost by a huge margin in seats. ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690/1182 "2017-06-11T09:22:11Z")
Sure, the UK media has always been so pro-Corbyn … This collective Tory self-flagellation is a joy to observe. What can they do, they don’t have a leadership candidate and they can’t afford a second election (yet!) - YouGov have Labour at 45% this morning. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690.md?page=58) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-snap-election-8-june-2017/784690.md?page=60)