# UK votes to leave EU **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 24, 2016, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208 "2016-06-24T05:44:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/22 "2016-06-24T13:42:04Z")
**truthSeeker2** Stop polluting threads with your anti-Islamic opinions. It’s is both off topic for this thread and jerkish behavior. Warning issued for being a jerk. > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Islamic culture is regressive. It’s a fact, not xenophobia. > Everything else is a small problem in comparison and a resolvable problem but not Islamic invasion . > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Many Muslims are liberal. Many are better than me in every aspect (that’s hardly an achievement). I would love and respect a Muslim at individual level just as I respect any non-Muslim. But Islam is very very bad/evil influence on its followers as a group. > [@truthSeeker2](#): > > Agree with you. > > But women in burqa ([http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/04/5358f5a683693.jpg](http://i.dawn.com/primary/2014/04/5358f5a683693.jpg)) is a disgusting thing for many to see in the streets of their country. What to do about that? ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/23 "2016-06-24T13:44:02Z")
**Everyone** Do not engage **truthSeeker2** in his anti-Islamist hijack. He’s been warned, so no need to respond. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/24 "2016-06-24T14:25:38Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Interesting. Not to hijack the thread or anything, but this makes me think the US really could elect Trump, much to everyone’s surprise. Agreed. The polling all seemed to show that the UK would remain in the EU. I think people said one thing and then voted another way. I can very much see how many Americans will do the same. Many of the same forces that led to the UK situation are at play in America. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/25 "2016-06-24T14:32:21Z")
8 reasons leave won the referendum. > **[Eight reasons Leave won the UK's referendum on the EU](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36574526)** > > The UK has voted to quit the European Union following a referendum on its membership. So how did the Leave campaign win? The final result was 51.9% leave and 48.1% remain. They won with over a million vote margin. A solid and convincing win. The early analysis of the win brings up many of the restrictions and obligations placed on EU members. I don’t fully understand why being a member is so burdensome. The EU is much more than a trade agreement. I wouldn’t be surprised if another country eventually leaves. Britain still has the G8 and it’s ties to the US. Leaving may eventually work to their advantage. Giving them more options. Only time will tell. Change is always hard. There’s a lot of uncertainty about the UK’s future. I wonder if this will be a time the Queen calls for unity and encourages support for the election? There should be a way she can do that without taking a political position. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/26 "2016-06-24T15:00:01Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The early analysis of the win brings up many of the restrictions and obligations placed on EU members. I don’t fully understand why being a member is so burdensome. Because many of those rules restrict the wealthy and powerful, who will now be able to screw over the people who foolishly voted for it. > [@aceplace57](#): > > The EU is much more than a trade agreement. I wouldn’t be surprised if another country eventually leaves. I expect this will have the opposite effect; Britain will probably end up as a Horrible Example that will make everyone else terrified of leaving. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/27 "2016-06-24T15:29:12Z")
> [@mr\_wolf](#): > > What exactly do ‘mundane’ and ‘pointless’ mean to you? **mr wolf** From the forum description: Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share (MPSIMS) For general discussion: from frivolous chatter to deep thoughts; from harmless diversions to life-changing announcements. There is no need to snark on the OP. If in the future you think a thread is in the wrong forum, use the report button. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/28 "2016-06-24T15:34:07Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > Agreed. The polling all seemed to show that the UK would remain in the EU. I think people said one thing and then voted another way. I can very much see how many Americans will do the same. Many of the same forces that led to the UK situation are at play in America. Agreed, many of the same forces. But Trump has gone out of his way to antagonize many large groups of people: women, Latinos, blacks,…, and will have trouble overcoming this. At least I hope so. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/29 "2016-06-24T16:01:54Z")
BBC has excellent coverage. I learned so much about the EU today. Answered questions I’ve wandered about for years. An all you need to know guide to the referendum. > **[Brexit: What you need to know about the UK leaving the EU](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887)** > > The UK and EU begin a new relationship on 1 January 2021. What is the EU and how does it work? [http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zgjwtyc](http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zgjwtyc) ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/30 "2016-06-24T16:17:30Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > I regard it as self-destructive foolishness primarily fueled by xenophobia. Agreed. 100% of Britains are racist [especially the ones who voted to stay with the EU.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19429466&postcount=2) ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/31 "2016-06-24T16:42:01Z")
There is little controversial in your linked post. Virtually everyone who grows up internalizes some racist tendencies. It’s impossible not to. Those who voted are expressing a hatred and fear of outsiders, fueled by their underlying racist views. It’s not an unreasonable distinction to try to make. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/32 "2016-06-24T20:41:07Z")
Well, today in the news Obama, i.e. the White House, Hillary, and Republicans are all making very clear the US & UK have a Special Relationship that is in no way going to change. The US has made it clear we will do what we can to ensure the transition occurs smoothly. I’d take that as a not-so-subtle warning to the EU that they can be pissy if they want, but there will be no gripping of UK balls while the US is around. ---
**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/33 "2016-06-24T23:53:20Z")
> [@Kiber](#): > > With Cameron stepping down, is Boris the favorite for PM now? It seems like it, although there would be a lot of pressure on him to call a General Election on taking office. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/34 "2016-06-25T01:21:26Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Well, today in the news Obama, i.e. the White House, Hillary, and Republicans are all making very clear the US & UK have a Special Relationship that is in no way going to change. The US has made it clear we will do what we can to ensure the transition occurs smoothly. I’d take that as a not-so-subtle warning to the EU that they can be pissy if they want, but there will be no gripping of UK balls while the US is around. Canada made a similar annonucement, stressing both halves. My interpretation was, rather, “Everything is normal. Please be calm and tranquil. Please do not further bash the world economy in your panic.” Plus a lot of enlightened self-interest: “Okay, you’re divorcing, but I still want to do business with you both. Please don’t make it any weirder than it already is.” ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/35 "2016-06-25T02:02:27Z")
Heh. Apparently [“move to Canada”](http://www.lfpress.com/2016/06/24/move-to-canada-trends-on-google-after-brexit-vote) is surging in Google searches in the UK. I guess “move to Canada” isn’t just Americans’ favorite plan B. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/36 "2016-06-25T03:33:19Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Heh. Apparently [“move to Canada”](http://www.lfpress.com/2016/06/24/move-to-canada-trends-on-google-after-brexit-vote) is surging in Google searches in the UK. > > I guess “move to Canada” isn’t just Americans’ favorite plan B. Other top Google searches in the UK _after_ the polls had closed: [“What is the EU?” and “What is Brexit?”](http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/06/24/480949383/britains-google-searches-for-what-is-the-eu-spike-after-brexit-vote) :rolleyes: As a local radio host put it today, that’s like “Ready, Fire, Aim!” or “What exactly did we just vote to leave?” ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/37 "2016-06-25T03:41:28Z")
> [@mascaroni](#): > > It seems like it, although there would be a lot of pressure on him to call a General Election on taking office. That’s not as easy as it used to be, though. He’d have to rush through a repeal of fixed-term parliaments, stage a loss of a no-confidence vote (I think this has happened in Germany), or get the consent of a substantial number of opposition MPs. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/38 "2016-06-25T05:38:11Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Heh. Apparently [“move to Canada”](http://www.lfpress.com/2016/06/24/move-to-canada-trends-on-google-after-brexit-vote) is surging in Google searches in the UK. > > I guess “move to Canada” isn’t just Americans’ favorite plan B. Sure. Until they do the conversion and figure out just what -30 C amounts to … ---
**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/39 "2016-06-25T08:08:01Z")
Anyone else remember, back in early or mid 60’s, when the World Was Shocked by the French blocking the UK’s membership in the ECC (early European trade market)? This, and the nomination of Goldwater by the GOP (Barry was slightly to the Right of Attila) were my earliest memories of Things Political. I thought the cycle was 30-50 years. This re-wind and replay is a bit late… ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/40 "2016-06-25T08:42:57Z")
Maybe now the EU will get new leadership and reform? They’ve certainly gotten a clear wake up call that change is needed. I’ve been reading comments that it might have been better if the UK had stayed and fought for reform from inside the EU. I guess that’s what they’ve been trying to do without any success? It may require a shock like the UK leaving for the EU to do anything. > **[Brexit referendum: EU ministers press UK for quick exit](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36626409)** > > EU foreign ministers urge the UK to begin negotiations on leaving the bloc "as soon as possible" after the country voted to end its membership. > [@](#): > > The mood in Brussels is resentful and despondent, while governments across Europe are scared. > > They feel the heat from angry electorates who share many of the criticisms of the EU highlighted during the UK referendum campaign. > > That’s why you’ve been hearing the words “EU” and “reform” of late from the nervous mouths of some you’d least expect, such as Germany’s Angela Merkel, and Donald Tusk. > > Because they’re so worried, the EU is preparing to get tough with Britain over the terms and timing of a new trade relationship. > > This is not about punishment - well, not much. > > It’s more a desire for the process to be painful to put others off exiting, while Europe’s leadership tries to re-group and, perhaps, reform. ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208/41 "2016-06-25T08:45:53Z")
In other news, I have read that the EU just found 1 GB of empty space in its hard disk… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-votes-to-leave-eu/758208.md?page=1)