# UK woman demands refund for daughter’s cake. See OP for the reason. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 22, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110 "2015-06-22T02:04:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/1 "2015-06-22T02:04:33Z")
I don’t want to influence what you see. Here is the cake. [http://static1.nydailynews.com/polopoly\_fs/1.2265888.1434900800!/img/httpImage/image.jpg\_gen/derivatives/article\_400/cake22n-2-web.jpg](http://static1.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2265888.1434900800!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_400/cake22n-2-web.jpg) very pretty cake. Nice lettering. Cute and adorable teddy bears. Notice anything unusual? Would you bring this cake to your 3 year old’s birthday party? Any reason at all to ask for a refund? [Full article](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/uk-woman-finds-female-genitals-decorative-bears-cake-article-1.2265890) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/2 "2015-06-22T02:07:55Z")
You mean the little bear-monkey genitals? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/3 "2015-06-22T02:08:19Z")
This is one of those things you can’t avoid seeing if its pointed out. I wish that I had seen the photo before being influenced by the headline. I gave everyone here that opportunity. Did you notice anything other than a beautiful cake before it got pointed out? 😉 I see running coach is quite observant. I might have been surprised too. I’m sure its just a seam but geez. Thats a bad spot for one. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/4 "2015-06-22T02:20:56Z")
They’re so puritanical over there in the U.K. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/5 "2015-06-22T02:26:15Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > This is one of those things you can’t avoid seeing if its pointed out. > > I wish that I had seen the photo before being influenced by the headline. > > I gave everyone here that opportunity. > > Did you notice anything other than a beautiful cake before it got pointed out? > > 😉 I see running coach is quite observant. I might have been surprised too. I’m sure its just a seam but geez. Thats a bad spot for one. I thought it stood out like a sore … err … thumb. I just did a Google image search on teddy bear. None of the bears in the photos have a seam that looks anything like that. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/6 "2015-06-22T02:28:13Z")
I can’t help but wonder about the bakery’s claim they never had any complaints. Seems impossible that others didn’t say anything. I would dismiss it as unfortunate seam placement. I’d use the cake at a small family birthday celebration. My wife, mom, cousins and other family wouldn’t care. But I wouldn’t take it to a big birthday party that included my child’s friends and their mothers. A bunch of strangers that don’t know me. First impressions matter. I’d worry about my wife and I getting labeled as the neighborhood’s perverts. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/7 "2015-06-22T04:08:06Z")
I looked at the pic first, saw the “seams” and went WTF? The argument that they are just that - seams - seems odd to me. I don’t see any other seams, as one might expect if that’s what they are. But I also can’t see the back of the bear-monkey things, so perhaps from the back they are all obviously stitched. And shit. I also showed the picture to my husband. He looked and said ok… I responded with “do you see anything odd about the cake?” He replied, “Well, the bears have vaginas.” Which is, I guess, appropriate for a girl’s cake. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/8 "2015-06-22T04:50:45Z")
Yeah, they would have had to pipe on some little teddy bear dresses for me. That’s just sick. They had to add those lines, on purpose, by hand. That ain’t right. Sexualizing teddy bears? Seriously, what next? ---
**Author:** ![Hopeful\_Crow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/da6949/32.png) [@Hopeful\_Crow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hopeful_Crow)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/9 "2015-06-22T04:55:24Z")
’ Am I the only one wondering what the boy teddy bears look like? Come on, there has to be someone other than me! ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/10 "2015-06-22T04:56:10Z")
> [@Hopeful\_Crow](#): > > ’ > Am I the only one wondering what the boy teddy bears look like? > > Come on, there has to be someone other than me! It’s not just you LOL ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/11 "2015-06-22T05:01:06Z")
A Winnie the Poo Cake could be quite a shock. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kaio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kaio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaio)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/12 "2015-06-22T05:22:33Z")
I saw it immediately and don’t buy for a second that it’s supposed to be “stitching.” A seam would go all the way up the front. A seam that doesn’t go all the way up the front is unnecessary to depict on a cake decoration. A “seam” that looks like a vulva is not an accident, though it may be an immature cake decorator who thinks bathroom humor is funny. ---
**Author:** ![Sodalite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@Sodalite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sodalite)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/13 "2015-06-22T05:30:23Z")
Saw it immediately and wondered why the bears had vajayjays. I thought it had been done on purpose. Seriously, when I read the article I expected the bakers to be arguing that was only natural for girl’s cake or something. A seam would be a dotted line and go all the way up or up, around the tummy, then up to the neck. [Sort of like this.](https://picasaweb.google.com/110214624331182171798/June222015#6163067146831167378) Why the weird undotted line in the one spot? ETA: Ninja’d by \*\*Kaio \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/14 "2015-06-22T05:41:19Z")
I still find the word ‘gusset’ amusing - from my childhood making felt animals. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/15 "2015-06-22T05:51:51Z")
I didn’t notice it at first. Had to really look for a good minute and only did so because of the way the OP was framed. If I just saw it apropos of nothing I wouldn’t look twice. Certainly no tiny child would either. Even if it was on purpose, so what? May not be necessary but it’s not hurting anyone either. What does hurt children though is teaching them that natural bodies are shameful and offensive (even if in this case the bodies are of bears, they are obviously anthropomorphized ones). Even worse, imagine the outrage if the bears were little boys. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/16 "2015-06-22T05:54:12Z")
> [@Hopeful\_Crow](#): > > ’ > Am I the only one wondering what the boy teddy bears look like? > > Come on, there has to be someone other than me! Nope, not just you. Add me to the list of people who saw it without the spoiler. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/17 "2015-06-22T05:56:38Z")
Looking around on google. I ran across this bear that has a similar seam. Fortunately the seam goes up the tummy and I doubt anybody ever gets the wrong idea. [http://www.funeral-urn.com/images/products/display/1411-lt-brown-teddy-bear-urn-600.jpg](http://www.funeral-urn.com/images/products/display/1411-lt-brown-teddy-bear-urn-600.jpg) Normally its not something that I’d even think to notice. Young Children’s toys are supposed to be innocent and fun. ---
**Author:** ![Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hilarity_n.suze/32/6223_2.png) [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hilarity_N.Suze)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/18 "2015-06-22T07:06:28Z")
Ha, bears (monkeys? lions?) with camel toe. They masked it with flowers? Uh…that seems even worse. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/19 "2015-06-22T08:22:39Z")
The “seam” was very obvious to me without reading the headline, but I wouldn’t have sent it back because the kid’s too young to notice it and everyone I know would have found it hilarious. OTOH, I wouldn’t be doing a church christening, which may change your sensitivities somewhat. Asking for a partial refund does actually seem fair enough. The whole amount, no. ---
**Author:** ![scareyfaerie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scareyfaerie/32/3135_2.png) [@scareyfaerie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scareyfaerie)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110/20 "2015-06-22T10:18:59Z")
I thought they were oddly-placed seams, especially since my old and much-loved teddy bear has seams in a quite different place. However, for a three-year old child, I doubt they would find anything untoward about the placing of the seam and probably wouldn’t even notice. They certainly wouldn’t be likely to remember that one thing in amongst everything else going on that day. Personally I think the mother just didn’t want to pay for it and was looking for a reason not to. However, I also think that given the fact the bears are covered in something I regard as cheat’s icing, it would be very easy to smooth out the seams without making a great deal of difference to the bears. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/uk-woman-demands-refund-for-daughter-s-cake-see-op-for-the-reason/723110.md?page=2)