# UKIP Councillor blames floods on gays

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 18, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154 "2014-01-18T18:30:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/1 "2014-01-18T18:30:08Z")

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From the huffpo UK [today](http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/18/ukip-homophobic-gay-_n_4622332.html?utm_hp_ref=tw):

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> “He has arrogantly acted against the Gospel that once made Britain ‘great’ and the lesson surely to be learned is that no man or men, however powerful, can mess with Almighty God with impunity and get away with it for everything a nation does is weighed on the scaled of divine approval or disapproval.”

UKIP really are the gift that keeps on giving, aren’t they?

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/2 "2014-01-18T18:48:57Z")

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An odd bunch, the UKIP. Their elected officials run the full gamut from right out racists to swivel-eyed religious maniacs. There was some sampling that they might poll higher than the Tories in the upcoming Euro elections:

> **[Tories to come third in Euro elections behind Labour and Ukip, poll warns](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10575868/Tories-to-come-third-in-Euro-elections-behind-Labour-and-Ukip-poll-warns.html)**
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> A poll finds that the Conservatives will come third in May's European Parliament elections, behind Labour and the UK Independence Party

Not that Euro election results ever reflect the result of any election that means anything, but still.

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**Author:** ![spotthegerbil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@spotthegerbil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spotthegerbil)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/3 "2014-01-18T18:53:24Z")

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In life there is balance. It’s like maths. If 2x=y, then y has to equal 2x.

So if gay marriage equals floods, then all these floods will cause gay marriage.

I think.

I hope they have nice weather for their weddings.

I’ve got an election in my constituency this week. The UKIP literature is always… interesting… 😃

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/4 "2014-01-18T18:53:27Z")

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Good to know we here in the states don’t have the market cornered on the crazy _just_ yet.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/5 "2014-01-18T18:59:14Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> …swivel-eyed religious maniacs.

I just wanted to admire a great phrase, there. Is that a regular Britishism?

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/6 "2014-01-18T22:08:14Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> I just wanted to admire a great phrase, there. Is that a regular Britishism?

There was a minor bit of controversy when a “senior Tory politician” described some of his party activists as “swivel-eyed loons.”. It’s an insult that everyone can enjoy, so it’s stuck.

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**Author:** ![gracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@gracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gracer)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/7 "2014-01-18T23:22:30Z")

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You’ve got to relish it when they really show their true colours.  
Oh no wait… UKIP doesn’t even have the other colours.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/8 "2014-01-19T01:10:17Z")

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Fine, I admit it. I caused the flooding.

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**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/9 "2014-01-19T02:17:40Z")

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I knew you were shifty looking.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/10 "2014-01-19T18:48:46Z")

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They’ve suspended him now for refusing to shut up. [UKIP suspends councillor who blamed flooding on gay marriage - BBC News](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25802437)

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> UKIP leader Nigel Farage said he was entitled to his “strong Baptist view of the world”, but had defied a request not to do further media interviews.
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> Mr Farage said: “So we suspended him, quite rightly.”

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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/11 "2014-01-19T18:57:47Z")

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The problem UKIP has is that it really has attracted some of the further right of the Tory party. And people do have these opinions, and so people are going to vote for them.

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/12 "2014-01-19T20:27:38Z")

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> [@Carl\_Corey](#):
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> I knew you were shifty looking.

No… not ‘shifty’, he is ‘swivel-eyed’.  
Read the memo.  
Sheeesh, young people these days…

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/13 "2014-01-19T21:29:36Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> They’ve suspended him now for refusing to shut up. [UKIP suspends councillor who blamed flooding on gay marriage - BBC News](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25802437)

Note they didn’t suspend him for being a swivel eyed religious maniac. They suspended him for opening his mouth and letting people know he is a swivel eyed religious maniac

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2014, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/14 "2014-01-19T21:44:36Z")

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Which, I assume, is protected, whereas not shutting up while appearing to speak in an official role may not be.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/15 "2014-01-20T08:37:14Z")

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I had to Google what the UKIP was. The search results text for their website was

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> Libertarian, non-racist party seeking Britain’s withdrawal from the European Union. Includes manifesto, campaign news, links and a section devoted to speeches by …

Which strikes me as the website version of “Hey, I’m not racist, but…”

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**Author:** ![Dervorin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Dervorin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dervorin)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/16 "2014-01-20T11:01:49Z")

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> [@Gagundathar](#):
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> No… not ‘shifty’, he is ‘swivel-eyed’.  
> Read the memo.  
> Sheeesh, young people these days…

In his defence, it’s hard to read accurately with eyes that swivel. Or shift, for that matter.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/17 "2014-01-20T11:19:55Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> Note they didn’t suspend him for being a swivel eyed religious maniac. They suspended him for opening his mouth and letting people know he is a swivel eyed religious maniac

When _UKIP_ suspends you for making them look bad, you’ve really gone off the deep end. I believe in the last-straw radio interview he opined that gays were “spiritually corrupt” people who could be healed through prayer. Nice. All we need now from him is a statement minimizing rape and the GOP will be signing him up.

Also, I now have this stuck in my head:

“Where did you come from?  
Where did you go?  
Where did you come from,  
Swivel-eyed Joe?”

And now you do too. You’re welcome.

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**Author:** ![Wash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9dc877/32.png) [@Wash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wash)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/18 "2014-01-20T14:32:00Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> Good to know we here in the states don’t have the market cornered on the crazy _just_ yet.

The difference is, in Britain the swivel-eyed loons (love that!) have quite rightly created their own party so they can be safely ignored/laughed at without ever gaining much in the way of real power, whereas in America, they’ve taken over one of the main two parties and people still vote for the idiots in droves.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/19 "2014-01-20T14:32:35Z")

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Well, _I_ do, for one.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukip-councillor-blames-floods-on-gays/679154/20 "2014-01-20T14:41:23Z")

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> [@Wash](#):
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> The difference is, in Britain the swivel-eyed loons (love that!) have quite rightly created their own party so they can be safely ignored/laughed at without ever gaining much in the way of real power, whereas in America, they’ve taken over one of the main two parties and people still vote for the idiots in droves.

The joy of UKIP is that they drag the knuckle dragging rightwing voters away from the Tories, which, if the Lord will have mercy on us, will make ‘Call Me Dave’s’ re-election far from a foregone conclusion.

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