# Ukraine and Netherlands, two odd countries

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 24, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-and-netherlands-two-odd-countries/544387 "2010-06-24T17:58:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2010, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-and-netherlands-two-odd-countries/544387/101 "2010-06-30T06:21:15Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> I imagine there’s a reason you say that one [La Grande] is French rather than Spanish, may I ask what it is?

From [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Grande)

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> The settlement was originally named after Ben Brown as Brown’s Fort, and then Browns Town or Brownsville.[5] There was already a Brownsville in Linn County, so when the post office was established in 1863, a more distinctive name was needed.[6][7] It was decided to use “La Grande”, a phrase used by a Frenchman, Charles Dause, to describe the area’s scenic splendor.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ukraine-and-netherlands-two-odd-countries/544387/102 "2010-07-01T02:40:58Z")

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> [@Autolycus](#):
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> So…it’s cheap to travel to these countries, yes?

It wil be from Japan. 😃

> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> And lest we forget, it’s THE Ohio State University.

Psst. See post #90.

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